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 Post subject: Last Season/ This Season
PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 8:12 am 

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I'm not one for knee-jerking but on the evidence so far I am very concerned with our situation.

Last season I was never really concerned. It seemed to me that we had enough quality and a strong nucleus in the squad, but even I wasn't expecting us to do as well as we did. I think we overachieved in the end on the back of momentum - which actually served to create false optimism for this year.

But this season is different for me. Poor standards of preparation, too much early disruption to the team and most importantly I don't see where any one of the signings is improving on what we had before.

The defence play like strangers which isn't surprising because it's a different bunch of strangers every week. Midfield lacks creativity and composure because we dispensed with what we had too rapidly. And if we're playing a lone striker, Ladapo is not the answer.

IMO we should revert to more or less the front 6 we had last season. Fox might only give us an hour each game but his composure and experience is badly needed. With Fox, Lamerias, Taylor and Sarcevic in the team, we have more players who are comfortable with the ball at their feet, short passing and interchanges that make Carey tick. I think the latter is suffering because there aren't enough 'footballers' present at the moment.

As for up front, Taylor has to play. The stats don't lie, poor spells at the start and end of last season and the beginning of this all coincide with his absence. His back to goal style provides a focal point for the team. I don't mind Ladapo - he works hard and offers something different but Taylor makes the team more fluid.

The back 5 is harder but we can't keep rotating and expect the players to get to know each other. So DA has to settle on a combination.

Back to basics for me. And introduce others more slowly - less disruption and less pressure on them.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 8:31 am 

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Frank_Butcher wrote:
I'm not one for knee-jerking but on the evidence so far I am very concerned with our situation.

Last season I was never really concerned. It seemed to me that we had enough quality and a strong nucleus in the squad, but even I wasn't expecting us to do as well as we did. I think we overachieved in the end on the back of momentum - which actually served to create false optimism for this year.

But this season is different for me. Poor standards of preparation, too much early disruption to the team and most importantly I don't see where any one of the signings is improving on what we had before.

The defence play like strangers which isn't surprising because it's a different bunch of strangers every week. Midfield lacks creativity and composure because we dispensed with what we had too rapidly. And if we're playing a lone striker, Ladapo is not the answer.

IMO we should revert to more or less the front 6 we had last season. Fox might only give us an hour each game but his composure and experience is badly needed. With Fox, Lamerias, Taylor and Sarcevic in the team, we have more players who are comfortable with the ball at their feet, short passing and interchanges that make Carey tick. I think the latter is suffering because there aren't enough 'footballers' present at the moment.

As for up front, Taylor has to play. The stats don't lie, poor spells at the start and end of last season and the beginning of this all coincide with his absence. His back to goal style provides a focal point for the team. I don't mind Ladapo - he works hard and offers something different but Taylor makes the team more fluid.

The back 5 is harder but we can't keep rotating and expect the players to get to know each other. So DA has to settle on a combination.

Back to basics for me. And introduce others more slowly - less disruption and less pressure on them.



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 Post subject: Re: Last Season/ This Season
PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 9:23 am 

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To be honest, last season was just as bad as this has been. Most Argyle fans I spoke to didn't see how we were going to get out of the predicament as we looked like we just didn't have the quality. It's the same now. What we did was change the defense, bring in a creative spark and look to attack more. That's just what we need now, but the problem is we can't change the defense, which was the foundation of all the rest of it.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 9:25 am 

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Last season we stumbled into the 4-2-3-1 formation that gave us our run. We also stumbled into the favoured players that gave us that threat up front.

Neither were the fortunes of hard work nailing that together. We chopped and changed time and time again until something clicked and went with it. Later on that season teams were becoming savvy to our tactics and nullified it accordingly towards the end of the season hence the reason we fell away. Injury’s duly played a part but only a part.

This season we’re trying to stumble across another starting 11, another suitable formation and another bit of good fortune.

How many times do we start a game and get so pinned back that we change formation again. We guess it and then see what the opposition do them react. What’s wrong with us forcing the opposition into that approach?

He’s a very reactive manager when he needs to be more proactive. That critical weakness coupled together with stubbornness/arrogance worry’s me.

Even if we do pull off this season and remain on L1 his tenure is almost spent in my mind and becoming stale.

He has to drastically change his philosophies, take a step back from all the other club related stuff he currently does and focus solely on this team and this league. He could also do with another hand in the training department but I’m sure his stubbornness/arrogance will prevail and prevent that from happening.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 11:13 am 

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I find myself in an odd position.

The season so far has been terrible. We’ve not seen more than a glimpse of what we demonstrated for most of the second half of last season.

However I still feel that Adams is the man. Partly because I don’t see anyone else who would be better. Partly because he has proved he can get out of sticky situations. I’m not sure of my view of him as a man - certainly he has a bit of Marmite about him - but the results and some of the football have generally been excellent. He has only been a good thing for the club and I’m grateful for that.

Were we to survive this year and to start again poorly next season with Adams... I think that would have to be it though. Will we reach that point this season? I hope not.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 11:21 am 

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How is it that Pompey finished just below us and have pushed on this season ,whilst we have gone back to being useless like the beginning of last season.

Everyone thought we would be aiming for a play off push from the start ,instead we are rock bottom ,no wins and not looking like winning any time soon.

It’s not acceptable if you ask me,many managers
would have been sacked in the same position,yet nothing is going to change on that front is it.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 11:55 am 

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#WEAKERTHANLASTSEASON

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 12:15 pm 

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Centre Circle wrote:
I find myself in an odd position.

The season so far has been terrible. We’ve not seen more than a glimpse of what we demonstrated for most of the second half of last season.

However I still feel that Adams is the man. Partly because I don’t see anyone else who would be better. Partly because he has proved he can get out of sticky situations. I’m not sure of my view of him as a man - certainly he has a bit of Marmite about him - but the results and some of the football have generally been excellent. He has only been a good thing for the club and I’m grateful for that.

Were we to survive this year and to start again poorly next season with Adams... I think that would have to be it though. Will we reach that point this season? I hope not.


So you are seriously saying there is no manager who could do better than a negative stubborn arrogant bottom of the League manager?? And all this 'excellent ' football you have witnessed apart from 3 months last season is a figment of your imagination. Take it you don't go away very often!


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 12:52 pm 
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moles40 wrote:
How is it that Pompey finished just below us and have pushed on this season ,whilst we have gone back to being useless like the beginning of last season.

Everyone thought we would be aiming for a play off push from the start ,instead we are rock bottom ,no wins and not looking like winning any time soon.

It’s not acceptable if you ask me,many managers
would have been sacked in the same position,yet nothing is going to change on that front is it.


You realise that 1) Pompey are owned by an actual billionaire, and 2) we’re only eight games into the season, there’s plenty of time for Pompey to get a lot worse and us to get a lot better.

Unless you think the league table will look the same after 46 games as it does after 8, then drawing conclusions at this stage is daft.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 2:40 pm 

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Biggs wrote:
moles40 wrote:
How is it that Pompey finished just below us and have pushed on this season ,whilst we have gone back to being useless like the beginning of last season.

Everyone thought we would be aiming for a play off push from the start ,instead we are rock bottom ,no wins and not looking like winning any time soon.

It’s not acceptable if you ask me,many managers
would have been sacked in the same position,yet nothing is going to change on that front is it.


You realise that 1) Pompey are owned by an actual billionaire, and 2) we’re only eight games into the season, there’s plenty of time for Pompey to get a lot worse and us to get a lot better.

Unless you think the league table will look the same after 46 games as it does after 8, then drawing conclusions at this stage is daft.


Biggs get real ffs.

Why would Pompey emploded and Argyle run riot overnight?

Based on what?

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 2:42 pm 

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At this stage last season we'd seen an impressive performance at Peterborough, a comfortable win against Charlton and a good point & performance at Southend.

I've watched every league game this season, and sadly I think we're much weaker.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 2:46 pm 

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Cobi Budge wrote:
At this stage last season we'd seen an impressive performance at Peterborough, a comfortable win against Charlton and a good point & performance at Southend.

I've watched every league game this season, and sadly I think we're much weaker.


That’s absolutely spot on

There are far too many words spoken here at the moment. It’s very simple, players are not good enough

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 2:52 pm 

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Balham_Green wrote:
Centre Circle wrote:
I find myself in an odd position.

The season so far has been terrible. We’ve not seen more than a glimpse of what we demonstrated for most of the second half of last season.

However I still feel that Adams is the man. Partly because I don’t see anyone else who would be better. Partly because he has proved he can get out of sticky situations. I’m not sure of my view of him as a man - certainly he has a bit of Marmite about him - but the results and some of the football have generally been excellent. He has only been a good thing for the club and I’m grateful for that.

Were we to survive this year and to start again poorly next season with Adams... I think that would have to be it though. Will we reach that point this season? I hope not.


So you are seriously saying there is no manager who could do better than a negative stubborn arrogant bottom of the League manager?? And all this 'excellent ' football you have witnessed apart from 3 months last season is a figment of your imagination. Take it you don't go away very often!


Your posts are so boring, BG. Trying to get a rise out of people at every opportunity. Dull as dishwater and half as imaginative. I shouldn’t bother responding, but no - I don’t think there’s a manager available at the moment who could do better.

I’ve seen plenty of excellent football over the last 3 years. Haven’t you?


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