Liam Rosenior!!

[KirkbyGreen]

Hull’s owner set ‘a top 10 finish’ at the start of the season as success for the club. By the end of the season, Rosenior narrowly misses out on the play-offs and then gets sacked for not meeting expectations and for differences with the owner on the club’s ‘vision’. Hull may well find they have a harder job attracting a new manager/head coach than us.

 

[The Doctor]

Quite a few people are suggesting that Sunderland will be pushing to appoint Will Still but they’re now going to be competing for his signature with Hull which I think is probably a more attractive job at the moment.

 

[Cobi Budge]

Quite a few people are suggesting that Sunderland will be pushing to appoint Will Still but they’re now going to be competing for his signature with Hull which I think is probably a more attractive job at the moment.

I can see Steve Cooper going to Hull.

 

[NLG]

Seems Liam needs to avoid having his team 7th at all costs.

 

[Penmaster]

I was pretty ambivalent before reading that article. I wonder if the Chairman wanted to buy in short term gains whilst LR wanted to pursue the longer term build approach?

Whatever- the words would surely appeal to SH et al. No doubt though that he would want more than a Chief Coach role

If that is correct about the LR having a longer term perspective on success, that may tempt him away from Sunderland and more in our direction.

 

[Fergy]

It suits my opinion but it is also all true. By "locking out the top spots" I think it's fair to assume that relegated PL sides reserve 3 of the top 6 spots year after year. You only need to look at recent league tables to show this.

I may have my timelines wrong, but wasn't Rosenior sacked by Derby after he had 1 transfer window whilst under an embargo?

21/22 - Derby relegated under Rooney with assistant Rosenior.
June 2022 - Rooney leaves. Rosenior appointed. Transfer embargo etc. They had only 5 senior players under contract.
September 2022 - he's sacked for Paul Warne.

This was the league table when he was sacked.

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So he got a transfer window with an embargo and 9 games, despite having them in 7th.

From memory I think he was sacked after we beat Derby at their place?

 

[Mark58]

From memory I think he was sacked after we beat Derby at their place?

Yes, that was my first thought, too: if not as a direct result of that memorable Argyle victory at their place it wasn't long after.

The twice 'sacked in the morning' scenarios following defeats to Argyle could play two ways, psychologically. Either he would come out in hives at the very thought of joining Argyle or logically conclude that if he was actually made our manager at least it could never happen next time!

 

[Rogue]

From memory I think he was sacked after we beat Derby at their place?

He was, yep. 9 games into the season after a pre-season.

I believe they were under a transfer embargo and entered pre-season with only 5 senior players. I could be wrong about the embargo part.

 

[999mattyg]

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If we keep doing it, he'll come.

Unlucky Stuey, it’s Brian! 😁

 

[Daz]

He was, yep. 9 games into the season after a pre-season.

I believe they were under a transfer embargo and entered pre-season with only 5 senior players. I could be wrong about the embargo part.

The players he had available for him were pretty damn good though. I’m not saying I don’t want him, I just don’t understand the clamour for him from some people.

 

[monkeywrench]

The players he had available for him were pretty damn good though. I’m not saying I don’t want him, I just don’t understand the clamour for him from some people.

I think that a lot of it is down to his personality, the way he embraces the whole one club philosophy, and his man management as much as anything. It was very interesting listening to the Hill radio journalist on 5 Live last night. He just seems a perfect fit for us.

 

[Lousy Pint]

I'm sure Liam R is a nice chap and all, but I don't get the clamour for him either.
It's a 'meh' from me

 

[Tricky Tree]

Liam Rosenoir - a big YES from me. Anyone with no Championship level management experience, is a mate of the former PE teacher and is a Scouser is a definite NO

 

[jerryatricjanner]

Liam Rosenoir - a big YES from me. Anyone with no Championship level management experience, is a mate of the former PE teacher and is a Scouser is a definite NO

What a good job Argyle didn't take that approach when they appointed Ryan Lowe and Schumacher under the direction of the former PE teacher who oversaw two promotions in three seasons and then 3 wins in 6 games to secure our Championship status.

 

[Tricky Tree]

What a good job Argyle didn't take that approach when they appointed Ryan Lowe and Schumacher under the direction of the former PE teacher who oversaw two promotions in three seasons and then 3 wins in 6 games to secure our Championship status.

There are only so many untried and untested Scouse managers to go around! I think more than Dewsnip responsible for the promotions, although obviously there is credit in the bank for these. Foster however eroded much of that. The biggest issue is one of risk. There is too much to lose in chancing it with a rookie at Championship level. It could work, but if it doesn't the financial hit would be huge (on TV money alone).