"30 years behind the times"

[samjones]

Giving the grandstand a lick of paint is hardly bringing us into the millennium

 

[Biggs]

Giving the grandstand a lick of paint is hardly bringing us into the millennium

You're right, it isn't.

However, a new roof, reseating everywhere, new offices and club shop, new dressing rooms and press facilities, entirely new hospitality and conferencing facilities, new toilets, a complete gutting and rebuilding of the lower tier, a wholly reconfigured layout of tunnel AND a lick of paint might just do it.

You really do stink this place out sometimes.

 

[GreenObserver]

EMILLE MPENZA !

Emile Mpenza was a bargain compared to what Kenny Cooper cost! At least EM scored twice and won us four points that kept us up.

Without taking over old muck, the £17million came from Keith Todd arriving, sacking Michael Dunford thinking he and his mates could do better, having their naivety exploited by agents and other clubs and then spending money hoping for a World Cup bid that was never happening .

 

[Ham Green]

Giving the grandstand a lick of paint is hardly bringing us into the millennium

You're right, it isn't.

However, a new roof, reseating everywhere, new offices and club shop, new dressing rooms and press facilities, entirely new hospitality and conferencing facilities, new toilets, a complete gutting and rebuilding of the lower tier, a wholly reconfigured layout of tunnel AND a lick of paint might just do it.

You really do stink this place out sometimes.

Entirely deliberately too, I might add.

 

[Green Matt]

Didn't Pulis describe the facilities as League Two? And that was over 10 years ago when the ground could hold over 20,000 with the open terrace.

 

[ghost of hughie reed]

Shame we never got in the Seaton Barracks site for a training ground.
Nothing doing at Sherford presumably.
Whats happened with Seale Hayne ?

 

[ghost of hughie reed]

It begs the question - what did we get for £17 million worth of debt? No promotion to the Premier League and no state of the art training facilities or good infrastructure.

A new pitch!

Nope. Didn't pay for it.

 

[Lundan Cabbie]

Shame we never got in the Seaton Barracks site for a training ground.
Nothing doing at Sherford presumably.
Whats happened with Seale Hayne ?

Torquay United are st Seale-Hayne now

 

[Bolshevik1966]

Fields around Seale Hayne will be houses in the next five years, the council plan is to build houses out to the A38. Councillors will be having a good Christmas as you could imagine.

 

[Penmaster]

We probably lost up to 10 years due to the administration period and the Stapleton era where the focus was spending money on player wages rather than infrastructure. The last accounts from the previous regime in 2009 showed we paid 87% of our turn over on player wages and 74% the season before that. It didn't leave much money to invest in facilities and infrastructure, if any at all.

It begs the question - what did we get for £17 million worth of debt? No promotion to the Premier League and no state of the art training facilities or good infrastructure.

We are playing catch up now and the responsibility to upgrade our facilities has fallen on the current board.

I've often wondered that myself.

We certainly didn't spend £17m on anything material...where the hell did it all go?

That £17 million debt so if you had on the £6 million or so for Halmosi, Gosling, SEB, Norris and Buzz then we are really looking at £23 million that has disappeared with only a new pitch to show for it which I beleive was half a million.

 

[with menace]

We probably lost up to 10 years due to the administration period and the Stapleton era where the focus was spending money on player wages rather than infrastructure. The last accounts from the previous regime in 2009 showed we paid 87% of our turn over on player wages and 74% the season before that. It didn't leave much money to invest in facilities and infrastructure, if any at all.

It begs the question - what did we get for £17 million worth of debt? No promotion to the Premier League and no state of the art training facilities or good infrastructure.

We are playing catch up now and the responsibility to upgrade our facilities has fallen on the current board.

I've often wondered that myself.

We certainly didn't spend £17m on anything material...where the hell did it all go?

That £17 million debt so if you had on the £6 million or so for Halmosi, Gosling, SEB, Norris and Buzz then we are really looking at £23 million that has disappeared with only a new pitch to show for it which I beleive was half a million.

I might be wrong but didn't we only pay a penny in the pound for the pitch? Didn't the firm go to the wall too?

 

[PL2 3DQ]

I think the pitch would have cost £330,000 and the company, Inscapes, still undertakes work on our current pitch and constructed new pitches at Harper's Park along with another company.

 

[Keepitgreen]

We probably lost up to 10 years due to the administration period and the Stapleton era where the focus was spending money on player wages rather than infrastructure. The last accounts from the previous regime in 2009 showed we paid 87% of our turn over on player wages and 74% the season before that. It didn't leave much money to invest in facilities and infrastructure, if any at all.

It begs the question - what did we get for £17 million worth of debt? No promotion to the Premier League and no state of the art training facilities or good infrastructure.

We are playing catch up now and the responsibility to upgrade our facilities has fallen on the current board.

I've often wondered that myself.

We certainly didn't spend £17m on anything material...where the hell did it all go?

That £17 million debt so if you had on the £6 million or so for Halmosi, Gosling, SEB, Norris and Buzz then we are really looking at £23 million that has disappeared with only a new pitch to show for it which I beleive was half a million.

I might be wrong but didn't we only pay a penny in the pound for the pitch? Didn't the firm go to the wall too?

All unsecured creditors received 0.77p for each £1.

Inscapes, the company who laid Argyle's brand new pitch last summer, will be handed £2,695 of the £350,000 worth of payments still outstanding.


As Postey says, Inscapes are still going and even have a photo of the work being done on our pitch on their home page.

http://www.inscapes.org.uk/

 

[HC Green]

Here is a video of some of the works at Harper’s Park.
http://topsport.co.uk/portfolio-item/pl ... ng-ground/