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Worth bearing in mind that our team is built around GC. Akos was amazing at times and frustrating at other times. GC also goes missing at times especially in the winter. I don't think we built our team around Akos so often he wasn't playing in a position of absolute freedom like GC.
 
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Some of you are mad! Akos has done it in the prem, champ and abroad - Carey was average in the SPL, average in league 1 but good in league 2.
 
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Both had a similar impact on Argyle for.the situations they were in. However, if Buz played in league 2 then he would have been unplayable and by far the best player in the league, Carey was neither.
 
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Akos all day..............proved himself at a far higher level that Carey will ever attain.

Carey has had two good seasons for us, prior to that just a journeyman. If at Akos had played at league 2 I am sure he would have at leased equalled Carey's efforts.

However, Akos was always way better than league 2 - he didn't need to drop to that level to kick-start his career
 

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One fact that cannot be disputed is that Buzsaky played 105 games and scored 9 goals. Carey has played 100 games, and counting, and has scored 27 goals.

I know of no 'assist' records available for Buzsaky but I doubt that his would exceed Carey's total.

It is also indisputable that we were at a higher level when Buzsaky was here but history tends to glorify the achievements of past players and I know who I would rather have representing us in 2017/18 season; and he will be.
 
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QPR fans named Akos "the White Pele" and he became an instant fans fave- I think a lot of the groans when playing for Argyle were because some of his teammates, as with GC10, were of a much lesser ability and just don't see that killer movement, pass or cross.
 

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Both had a similar impact on Argyle for.the situations they were in. However, if Buz played in league 2 then he would have been unplayable and by far the best player in the league, Carey was neither.

In hindsight.

Buzsacky may have struggled with the robustness of L2/L1. Its easy to say that because he did it in the championship and premier league that he'll walk the lower leagues.

It just doesn't work like that.
 
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Akos was a better player in the sense of pure ability but Carey is a much more rounded player who does the business at a more consistent rate, albeit at a lower level but GC10 is the better in my humble.
 
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Akos every time, more consistent at a much tougher level, Carey good for 15 minutes a game, some highlights but drifts out of the game too often.
 
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In hindsight.

Buzsacky may have struggled with the robustness of L2/L1. Its easy to say that because he did it in the championship and premier league that he'll walk the lower leagues.



You mean like Messi wouldn't cope with the premier league?
 
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Strange thread but I had an argument recently with a (non Argyle supporting) friend about who the better player was/is.

My opinion is Carey, his is Buzsaky.

The immediate observation is that they were playing two divisions apart. If you include QPR, Akos played in the Premier League, for Hungary internationally and also under Jose Mourinho at Porto. So Akos has undeniably made more of himself at a higher level.

However Carey's CV at Argyle has been near legendary. He has been the driving force behind all manner of goals and assists, some world class goals - long range belters, dribbles, sprints and finishes. All while pulling his weight and committing to defending, which Akos never even pretended to be interested in doing. Pulls had our best player at the time on the bench for exactly this reason. Akos looked streets above with his silky moves, but Carey is direct - if he doesn't deliver goals its chances and assists.

If you could have one player at their best for Argyle which one do you start and which one do you bench? A direct comparison of player v player.
If your "mate" is a non Argyle supporter, how many times did he watch either player to make a choice ?
 
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Knibbsworth":cbwl98uf said:
Strange thread but I had an argument recently with a (non Argyle supporting) friend about who the better player was/is.

My opinion is Carey, his is Buzsaky.

The immediate observation is that they were playing two divisions apart. If you include QPR, Akos played in the Premier League, for Hungary internationally and also under Jose Mourinho at Porto. So Akos has undeniably made more of himself at a higher level.

However Carey's CV at Argyle has been near legendary. He has been the driving force behind all manner of goals and assists, some world class goals - long range belters, dribbles, sprints and finishes. All while pulling his weight and committing to defending, which Akos never even pretended to be interested in doing. Pulls had our best player at the time on the bench for exactly this reason. Akos looked streets above with his silky moves, but Carey is direct - if he doesn't deliver goals its chances and assists.

If you could have one player at their best for Argyle which one do you start and which one do you bench? A direct comparison of player v player.
If your "mate" is a non Argyle supporter, how many times did he watch either player to make a choice ?

He watched Buzsaky in the flesh once or twice and found him a memorable talent, which is exactly what Akos was.

I got up YouTube videos of two seasons worth of Carey putting pinpoint crosses on strikers heads, killer through balls, Scholes like cross field balls, long range strikes etc. but he was not impressed. He found the smooth tekkers of Akos, the cruyff turns, the backheel nutmegs, the dropped shoulders, the feints, and the mazy midfield dribbles the evidence of a much more naturally gifted, talented, enigmatic, better player.

My argument was that Carey's genius lies in being direct. His vision and his passes lead to chances, chances which so often lead to goals. Goals are what win games, not the judges scorecards for showing off and technique demonstrated. Carey's long range threat is as dangerous as I have ever seen in a player at Argyle, ever, including Akos (who is also right up there). But whereas Akos hit one or two memorable belters, Carey often delivers one or two a month. Buzsaky for me never used his outstanding talent for the benefit of the team enough. He could skin two or three Championship level centre midfielders easily enough before spraying a quality pass, but so often it didn't really lead to anything. You rarely come out of Home Park after an Argyle win where Carey hasn't either totally pulled the strings, set up the key chances or scored the big goals. Carey's importance to our team just cannot be understated.

People can argue that Carey has been playing two divisions below Akos. But it is pretty evident that Carey was never a League Two quality player - he was streets ahead of the rest in terms of quality, ever since the thirty yard goal away at AFC Wimbledon on his debut. Jed Wallace was the same at one point for Pompey too, but he got a move to Wolves whereas Carey chose to stay and play for his guru. Numerous impartial pundits have identified Carey as the best player outside of the Championship - that includes League One as well as Two. Skynet revealed Carey had offers from Middlesbrough and Sheffield United among others who are bigger Championship clubs than Argyle were. So for me, doing it at a lower standard argument doesn't cut it - a sweetly hit thirty yarder goes in at most levels, and that's why big Championship clubs wanted him.
 

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Carey was very good in Div 2. As yet he is unproven in Div 1.

Akos didn't start THAT many games. He was often a sub but then Pulis was the manager for part of his stay with us!

Carey is the better defender. Akos the better with both feet.

Carey the more dominant player (albeit in a poorer side). Buszacky had by far the greater potential and played at levels that Carey will never achieve.

Buzz probably the more reliable, Carey is unlikely to have an unauthorised operation.

Buzz probably set up more goals from open play. Carey probably the better dead-ball specialist.

They were both of their time and therefore difficult to compare.

If I had to have one in my side it would be Buzz every time.