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Checkatrade Trophy - Format Survey
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Also, not boycotting all games has given Shaun Harvey an argument to suggest support in the competition. The Wembley final between Oxford and Coventry was well attended because it was a Wembley final between two league teams with good sizes of support.
Many fans who were against B teams convinced themselves that the boycott was no longer needed because there were no B teams remaining in the competition.
Harvey does not care for that reasoning. He used them as an example of support for the new competition's format. The boycott must be ALL games, including the Wembley final. Wembley aint special any more anyway, its Spurs' home ground and soon enough it'll be Chelsea's, etc. The home of English football? Or the home of the highest bidder?
Many fans who were against B teams convinced themselves that the boycott was no longer needed because there were no B teams remaining in the competition.
Harvey does not care for that reasoning. He used them as an example of support for the new competition's format. The boycott must be ALL games, including the Wembley final. Wembley aint special any more anyway, its Spurs' home ground and soon enough it'll be Chelsea's, etc. The home of English football? Or the home of the highest bidder?
Maybe we should get Harvey to put B teams in our leagues as well and encourage Adams to play experimental sides made up of youth and injured players only! Hopefully one of the Reading youth players that was subbed on for the final 15 minutes against us will get sold to Man United and they can win the galactic cup.
And then, of course the galactic cup is of course the feeder league to the Barcelona podium. The ultimate division in which only Barcelona compete. Of course the games are training matches between Barcelona's squad, but without those awful goals to settle the score. No, judges sit on the sidelines and mark the sublime passing of the teams. Goals were too... archaic for pure football. Of course most of the judges are bias, so hopefully soon they'll have technology that decides the scoring for us.
And then, of course the galactic cup is of course the feeder league to the Barcelona podium. The ultimate division in which only Barcelona compete. Of course the games are training matches between Barcelona's squad, but without those awful goals to settle the score. No, judges sit on the sidelines and mark the sublime passing of the teams. Goals were too... archaic for pure football. Of course most of the judges are bias, so hopefully soon they'll have technology that decides the scoring for us.
LeonTheGreen":2vfj3gnt said:
We wouldn't be fined, if we play our youth in the league fixture before or after that cup game.
The thing that makes me laugh is people calling it the thin end of the wedge. This is already the thick end of the wedge. Allowing promotion/relegation between a break away group was the thin edge, allowing breakaway clubs in the League Cup, was the thin edge of the wedge. IIRC the only high profile person calling for Prem Clubs to be banned from the League cup was (the then Brentford Chairman, who was prepared to "cut his nose off," to save the football league.) What the Football League clubs should have done is voted against promotion/relegation, struck a TV deal with ITV, after that vile excuse of a man Alan Sugar, fixed the vote to Sky, despite a conflict of interest. And out right refused to acknowledge the winners of the breakaway as Champions of England. The "Associate Members" Cup being over run, is nothing in compassion to 1992. Until someone refuses the promotion to the PL to defend the Football League championship, thus throwing illegitimacy on the top flight competition, until fans boycott the League cup ,then of course the bully boys at the top will continue to do what they like. You're fighting a lost cause I'm afraid, you're a quarter of a centaury too late to the battle. You are fighting a battle in a war we have already lost.
That just wouldn't have worked. Darts tried that but there was no credibility in having a World Champion coming from a competition that none of the top players were entering.
Although I am no supporter of this scheme it should be pointed out that this is not a Premier League initiative but the FA’s , misguidedly to benefit the national team. Premier League clubs are unenthusiastic to say the least as evidenced by the number of top clubs who declined to take part last season and the derisory £3m they are prepared to stump up. Premier League clubs are far more likely to bring in a proven foreign player for instant effect rather than nurture the young talent from their youth set up. When they do have young players of the talent who they think may make it in the Premier League they loan them out, mainly to Championship clubs, to get them the necessary experience. I don’t think they are much interested in the Checkatrade Trophy or a fifth league.
esmer":3fmrdv0z said:
Well put. The Football League clubs are essentially being asked to demean themselves to help solve a problem of the Premier League's making, which is wholly wrong.
We all know why Premier League youngsters don't get a chance. Why would a PL club risk a youngster when they don't have to, given their massive resources to buy whoever they want? As Deepthroat said... 'follow the money'. That will never, ever happen though, as long as the gravy train keeps rolling.
Player hoarding has to stop but again, that will never happen because the FA are sub-ordinate to the PL's wealth and terrified of the big clubs leaving for a super league.
Is it the EPL's issue, wouldn't seem so.
And I can't think of a sport where the more capable (overseas or not) pro's sit on the sidelines watching kids invest in mistakes, so football is not so insane is it.
How long before a young star, English or otherwise, just plain refuses to entertain the dieing horse which is gratis international football. If there are too many games or a winter break is needed, why not just snub international football and get the required breaks that way? No rule against that is there, seems eminently sensible.
As for the EFL refusing to play ball with the EPL, can't happen can it. EFL has negligible interest overseas does it, hence the minnow to the global big fish the prem is: and that has nothing to do with the England national team which itself has little playing talent and a ludicrously unambitious choice of manager.
And I can't think of a sport where the more capable (overseas or not) pro's sit on the sidelines watching kids invest in mistakes, so football is not so insane is it.
How long before a young star, English or otherwise, just plain refuses to entertain the dieing horse which is gratis international football. If there are too many games or a winter break is needed, why not just snub international football and get the required breaks that way? No rule against that is there, seems eminently sensible.
As for the EFL refusing to play ball with the EPL, can't happen can it. EFL has negligible interest overseas does it, hence the minnow to the global big fish the prem is: and that has nothing to do with the England national team which itself has little playing talent and a ludicrously unambitious choice of manager.
This year's list of teams (reportedly, not yet confirmed).
https://twitter.com/AgainstLeague3/stat ... 1255191554
https://twitter.com/AgainstLeague3/stat ... 1255191554
That list has now been confirmed. So we'll be against one of;cheshiregreen":3tqp9548 said:
Brighton, Chelsea, Fulham, Reading, Southampton, Swansea, Spurs, West Ham
and then (at least) one of;
Exeter, Yeovil, Crawley, Barnet, Wycombe, Swindon, Colchester, Stevenage, Luton, Cheltenham, Forest Green, Newport
and then either another one from above, or one of;
Portsmouth, Gillingham, Southend, Wimbledon, Charlton, Bristol Rovers, Oxford, Milton Keynes, Northampton, Peterborough, Walsall
