Robert Daniel - Former Argyle Chairman.

[memory man]

Memory Man.... another old story about life under Daniel and Skinnard which you may have heard....back in the 1960's Malcolm Allison who was the Argyle manager at the time left Argyle for Manchester City and he wanted to take Duncan Neale the Argyle wing half with him...Daniel wanted £27K transfer fee and City would not pay that price,so Duncan remained at Argyle,and City went on to sign their second choice Colin Bell from Bury....

Wow, I never knew that! Duncan would have been disappointed as in those days he felt he did not always get a fair crack of the whip. Coincidentally in February 1964 Colin Bell actually made his Bury debut against Man City, around three weeks after his 18th birthday. The following season, when big Mal was in charge of Argyle, he would have seen Bell at close quarters on three occasions. On 06 Oct 1964 at Gigg Lane Argyle triumphed 2-0. 8 days later Argyle returned north for a League Cup 3rd round tie, with Doug Baird scoring the only goal. Then on 24 April 1965 Bury came to Home Park and got a 2-2 draw. Colin Bell and Duncan Neale played in all three games (as did Tony Book). The match with Bury turned out to be the last of that Allison spell at Home Park - I seem to recall that the Board wanted him to drop Dwyer and pick Leiper but he refused and then resigned.

oddball - I forgot that Colin Bell made his home debut for Man C against Argyle. Joe Mercer was the manager of City at the time - but something of a figurehead as it was clear that Malcolm Allison ran the show.

02-Apr-1966 League Division Two
Maine Road
Manchester City 1 Plymouth Argyle 1
Crossan Doyle (og)

Att: 24,087

Team Line-ups
Manager: Joe Mercer
1 Harry Dowd
2 Bobby Kennedy
3 Stan Horne
4 Mike Doyle
5 George Heslop
6 Alan Oakes
7 Glyn Pardoe
8 Colin Bell
9 Mike Summerbee
10 Johnny Crossan
11 Dave Connor

Manager: Derek Ufton
1 John Leiper
2 Tony Book
3 Doug Baird
4 John Hore
5 Andy Nelson
6 John Newman
7 Dave Corbett
8 Tony Brimacombe
9 Mike Bickle
10 Norman Piper
11 Cliff Jackson
(We had a number 5 called Nelson)

 

[djg145]

Memory Man.... another old story about life under Daniel and Skinnard which you may have heard....back in the 1960's Malcolm Allison who was the Argyle manager at the time left Argyle for Manchester City and he wanted to take Duncan Neale the Argyle wing half with him...Daniel wanted £27K transfer fee and City would not pay that price,so Duncan remained at Argyle,and City went on to sign their second choice Colin Bell from Bury....

Wow, I never knew that! Duncan would have been disappointed as in those days he felt he did not always get a fair crack of the whip. Coincidentally in February 1964 Colin Bell actually made his Bury debut against Man City, around three weeks after his 18th birthday. The following season, when big Mal was in charge of Argyle, he would have seen Bell at close quarters on three occasions. On 06 Oct 1964 at Gigg Lane Argyle triumphed 2-0. 8 days later Argyle returned north for a League Cup 3rd round tie, with Doug Baird scoring the only goal. Then on 24 April 1965 Bury came to Home Park and got a 2-2 draw. Colin Bell and Duncan Neale played in all three games (as did Tony Book). The match with Bury turned out to be the last of that Allison spell at Home Park - I seem to recall that the Board wanted him to drop Dwyer and pick Leiper but he refused and then resigned.

oddball - I forgot that Colin Bell made his home debut for Man C against Argyle. Joe Mercer was the manager of City at the time - but something of a figurehead as it was clear that Malcolm Allison ran the show.

02-Apr-1966 League Division Two
Maine Road
Manchester City 1 Plymouth Argyle 1
Crossan Doyle (og)

Att: 24,087

Team Line-ups
Manager: Joe Mercer
1 Harry Dowd
2 Bobby Kennedy
3 Stan Horne
4 Mike Doyle
5 George Heslop
6 Alan Oakes
7 Glyn Pardoe
8 Colin Bell
9 Mike Summerbee
10 Johnny Crossan
11 Dave Connor

Manager: Derek Ufton
1 John Leiper
2 Tony Book
3 Doug Baird
4 John Hore
5 Andy Nelson
6 John Newman
7 Dave Corbett
8 Tony Brimacombe
9 Mike Bickle
10 Norman Piper
11 Cliff Jackson
(We had a number 5 called Nelson)

Tony Book played for Man City - can't remember if it was before or after Argyle.

 

[memory man]

Memory Man.... another old story about life under Daniel and Skinnard which you may have heard....back in the 1960's Malcolm Allison who was the Argyle manager at the time left Argyle for Manchester City and he wanted to take Duncan Neale the Argyle wing half with him...Daniel wanted £27K transfer fee and City would not pay that price,so Duncan remained at Argyle,and City went on to sign their second choice Colin Bell from Bury....

Wow, I never knew that! Duncan would have been disappointed as in those days he felt he did not always get a fair crack of the whip. Coincidentally in February 1964 Colin Bell actually made his Bury debut against Man City, around three weeks after his 18th birthday. The following season, when big Mal was in charge of Argyle, he would have seen Bell at close quarters on three occasions. On 06 Oct 1964 at Gigg Lane Argyle triumphed 2-0. 8 days later Argyle returned north for a League Cup 3rd round tie, with Doug Baird scoring the only goal. Then on 24 April 1965 Bury came to Home Park and got a 2-2 draw. Colin Bell and Duncan Neale played in all three games (as did Tony Book). The match with Bury turned out to be the last of that Allison spell at Home Park - I seem to recall that the Board wanted him to drop Dwyer and pick Leiper but he refused and then resigned.

oddball - I forgot that Colin Bell made his home debut for Man C against Argyle. Joe Mercer was the manager of City at the time - but something of a figurehead as it was clear that Malcolm Allison ran the show.

02-Apr-1966 League Division Two
Maine Road
Manchester City 1 Plymouth Argyle 1
Crossan Doyle (og)

Att: 24,087

Team Line-ups
Manager: Joe Mercer
1 Harry Dowd
2 Bobby Kennedy
3 Stan Horne
4 Mike Doyle
5 George Heslop
6 Alan Oakes
7 Glyn Pardoe
8 Colin Bell
9 Mike Summerbee
10 Johnny Crossan
11 Dave Connor

Manager: Derek Ufton
1 John Leiper
2 Tony Book
3 Doug Baird
4 John Hore
5 Andy Nelson
6 John Newman
7 Dave Corbett
8 Tony Brimacombe
9 Mike Bickle
10 Norman Piper
11 Cliff Jackson
(We had a number 5 called Nelson)

Tony Book played for Man City - can't remember if it was before or after Argyle.

Afterwards. Malcolm lied to the Argyle Board about Tony's age and told even more porkies when he took him to City. To be fair to Argyle, they based the fee on Book's age and felt they may get a bit-part season or two out of him, never imagining what unfolded. He was 12 days short of his 30th birthday when he made his Argyle debut and nearly 32 when he made the first of his 311 starts for City. When he made his final start for City (v Walsall in the League Cup) he was 40 years and 30 days old. So basically a man who was just turning 30 when he made his Football League debut ended up making 404 starts (and 3 as a sub) before he retired. He also won a League Championship (where he was an ever present) and two years later won the FA Cup.

 

[argyleapf]

Memory Man.... another old story about life under Daniel and Skinnard which you may have heard....back in the 1960's Malcolm Allison who was the Argyle manager at the time left Argyle for Manchester City and he wanted to take Duncan Neale the Argyle wing half with him...Daniel wanted £27K transfer fee and City would not pay that price,so Duncan remained at Argyle,and City went on to sign their second choice Colin Bell from Bury....

Wow, I never knew that! Duncan would have been disappointed as in those days he felt he did not always get a fair crack of the whip. Coincidentally in February 1964 Colin Bell actually made his Bury debut against Man City, around three weeks after his 18th birthday. The following season, when big Mal was in charge of Argyle, he would have seen Bell at close quarters on three occasions. On 06 Oct 1964 at Gigg Lane Argyle triumphed 2-0. 8 days later Argyle returned north for a League Cup 3rd round tie, with Doug Baird scoring the only goal. Then on 24 April 1965 Bury came to Home Park and got a 2-2 draw. Colin Bell and Duncan Neale played in all three games (as did Tony Book). The match with Bury turned out to be the last of that Allison spell at Home Park - I seem to recall that the Board wanted him to drop Dwyer and pick Leiper but he refused and then resigned.

oddball - I forgot that Colin Bell made his home debut for Man C against Argyle. Joe Mercer was the manager of City at the time - but something of a figurehead as it was clear that Malcolm Allison ran the show.

02-Apr-1966 League Division Two
Maine Road
Manchester City 1 Plymouth Argyle 1
Crossan Doyle (og)

Att: 24,087

Team Line-ups
Manager: Joe Mercer
1 Harry Dowd
2 Bobby Kennedy
3 Stan Horne
4 Mike Doyle
5 George Heslop
6 Alan Oakes
7 Glyn Pardoe
8 Colin Bell
9 Mike Summerbee
10 Johnny Crossan
11 Dave Connor

Manager: Derek Ufton
1 John Leiper
2 Tony Book
3 Doug Baird
4 John Hore
5 Andy Nelson
6 John Newman
7 Dave Corbett
8 Tony Brimacombe
9 Mike Bickle
10 Norman Piper
11 Cliff Jackson
(We had a number 5 called Nelson)

Tony Book played for Man City - can't remember if it was before or after Argyle.

After. We signed him from Bath City.