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Lowe - post Charlton
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oldage":342d0zyd said:
I wonder how many days he actually spends with the squad due to his family not living down here.
i have just plucked up the courage to watch his post match interview.it will be very interesting to see who isn't selected for the inevitable defeat at oxford.
We celebrate our best, most creative player in a way l just donât understand.
Yes without Mayor we would be weaker. But that says more about the quality of the rest of our squad. There is no end product.
This comes from a fan who wanted to adore this guy. Who was so excited about seeing him. Yet after two seasons of constantly watching no end product and him disappearing in the second half of games l just canât keep on waiting for him to produce performances on a consistent basis. Yes there are flashes, but the key word here is consistent.
Itâs like making a fantastic looking cake. You marvel at it. Your looking forward to it. Then you eat it and find that the cake that doesnât look as good actually tastes way better.
Here we are desperate to keep hold of him. And for what? The odd moment of brilliance because the rest of our squad is so poor.
Last night Charltons second goal. No tricks. No magic. Just a guy whipping an excellent cross from the touchline into the box. Thatâs just as beautiful. Unfortunately, in many fans eyes itâs not as eye catching.
Yes without Mayor we would be weaker. But that says more about the quality of the rest of our squad. There is no end product.
This comes from a fan who wanted to adore this guy. Who was so excited about seeing him. Yet after two seasons of constantly watching no end product and him disappearing in the second half of games l just canât keep on waiting for him to produce performances on a consistent basis. Yes there are flashes, but the key word here is consistent.
Itâs like making a fantastic looking cake. You marvel at it. Your looking forward to it. Then you eat it and find that the cake that doesnât look as good actually tastes way better.
Here we are desperate to keep hold of him. And for what? The odd moment of brilliance because the rest of our squad is so poor.
Last night Charltons second goal. No tricks. No magic. Just a guy whipping an excellent cross from the touchline into the box. Thatâs just as beautiful. Unfortunately, in many fans eyes itâs not as eye catching.
skynet":1eamqiym said:
Can you not like a player but still think for the benefit of our team he unfortunately isnât good enough?
What l mean by this is l can see he is a good player. His dribbling is fantastic to watch. You have to admire the skill of the guy to do that at pace.
However, l have to be honest about the last two seasons. His end product is frustrating. Doesnât mean l think he is crap. I just look at the team and itâs built around him. And unfortunately because of this we need him to be at the top of his game consistently. And thatâs unfair on him. Yet thatâs where we are as a team. If he doesnât perform we carry little to none attacking threat.
Whatever reason, whether itâs the players around him or his current position in our team system we arenât getting what we need from him in order for Argyle to be successful.
The team comes first. If good players donât effect the team enough on a consistent basis lm afraid you have to question their role.
The mad thing about Lowe bitching about his defenders, his lack of leaders.
Whinging and feeling sorry for himself in the press for the last five games.
Perhaps you shouldnât keep loaning young central defenders who literally have no experience of senior football and making them the backbone of your side.
Perhaps you shouldnât recruit predominantly under 23s. (When is the last player we signed who wasnât?)
Perhaps you shouldnât rely on the loan market, on players who have no intention of being here long term.
Players not motivated by impressing to earn another yearâs contract, players not threatened by not being here in a monthâs time.
Sam Woods knows he is going back to Palace, Opoku knows he is going back to Fulham.
Watts knows his Newcastle home awaits him in just a few weeks. Fornah casually dribbling the ball around in circles in our own half/box against Shrewsbury without a care in the world.
In 3 months their agents and their clubs will find new random places for them to shack up for the season.
None of them truly care and why should they? Argyle donât pay their wages and wonât decide their future. Just another bit of experience under their belt. It is almost treated like an American summer camp by these lads.
Then you look at Byron Moore and Lewis MacLeod. Not only have they got their passports and sun cream ready, they must have their possessions boxed up ready to move house judging by their performances. The one goal involving the step over and Millar finish, Byron Moore isnât even in our half. Looking back now I donât think he is in camera shot for any of the five goals he was on the pitch to concede, bar one - a half hearted jog back to pressure Millar before he scores via a deflection off Watts. For 4 goals he is literally nowhere to be seen.
Given that the number 3, their LB, is on hand for a tap from ten yards in if his teammate doesnât beat him to it, Iâm sure Lowe will be interested why Moore doesnât even appear to have made it back into our half in all of these decisive occasions when a bit of defensive support wouldnât have gone amiss.
Lowe will have learnt a lot about himself and his squad in these last ten games, and from the sounds of his interview he has learned some lessons. The days of the junior back line here on work experience may be over.
I think Lowe deserves the chance to show he is only human and he has learned where he went wrong this season.
Whinging and feeling sorry for himself in the press for the last five games.
Perhaps you shouldnât keep loaning young central defenders who literally have no experience of senior football and making them the backbone of your side.
Perhaps you shouldnât recruit predominantly under 23s. (When is the last player we signed who wasnât?)
Perhaps you shouldnât rely on the loan market, on players who have no intention of being here long term.
Players not motivated by impressing to earn another yearâs contract, players not threatened by not being here in a monthâs time.
Sam Woods knows he is going back to Palace, Opoku knows he is going back to Fulham.
Watts knows his Newcastle home awaits him in just a few weeks. Fornah casually dribbling the ball around in circles in our own half/box against Shrewsbury without a care in the world.
In 3 months their agents and their clubs will find new random places for them to shack up for the season.
None of them truly care and why should they? Argyle donât pay their wages and wonât decide their future. Just another bit of experience under their belt. It is almost treated like an American summer camp by these lads.
Then you look at Byron Moore and Lewis MacLeod. Not only have they got their passports and sun cream ready, they must have their possessions boxed up ready to move house judging by their performances. The one goal involving the step over and Millar finish, Byron Moore isnât even in our half. Looking back now I donât think he is in camera shot for any of the five goals he was on the pitch to concede, bar one - a half hearted jog back to pressure Millar before he scores via a deflection off Watts. For 4 goals he is literally nowhere to be seen.
Given that the number 3, their LB, is on hand for a tap from ten yards in if his teammate doesnât beat him to it, Iâm sure Lowe will be interested why Moore doesnât even appear to have made it back into our half in all of these decisive occasions when a bit of defensive support wouldnât have gone amiss.
Lowe will have learnt a lot about himself and his squad in these last ten games, and from the sounds of his interview he has learned some lessons. The days of the junior back line here on work experience may be over.
I think Lowe deserves the chance to show he is only human and he has learned where he went wrong this season.
I applaud Ryan Lowe for coming out and saying what he has about these players. There's nothing that infuriates fans more than players lacking any pride or commitment and Lowe has spoken not only for himself but for us fans. Bring Sawyer and McCormick in to the team for Saturday in the hope they can instill some passion.
May be Danny , would be a sensational player if he had the right coach , it can't be so hard to coach a player to shoot ! can it!
He has all the other aspects of his game .
He has all the other aspects of his game .
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Knibbsworth":waqjg8st said:
Well said.
Byron Moore has been the most disappointing player of the season, he's gone backwards compared to last season. Moore is less.
22 substitute appearances says it all, the same as Ben Reeves - is there a competition between these two fringe players?
Moore somehow gets the nod as a sub, usually as a striker, ahead of more deserving players on the bench (is he on an appearance related contract?) and you'd think he'd be busting a gut to earn a starting place in the next game, but no, he just saunters through the minutes he has on the pitch without breaking a sweat.
Why does he get selected instead of Lolos?
Last season he was so full of energy and momentum and looked interested.