FA Cup 1st Round draw (ball number 33)

cheshiregreen · Oct 16, 2019

On Monday I think but this article says tomorrow.

One team straight through to Round 2.

FA Cup first round: Bury expulsion means bye to second round for one team - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50076272

Martyn · Oct 16, 2019

cheshiregreen":355vx7o8 said:
On Monday I think but this article says tomorrow.

One team straight through to Round 2.

FA Cup first round: Bury expulsion means bye to second round for one team - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50076272

Yep, BBC2 showing draw at 7.00 pm on Monday.

argyleforever · Oct 16, 2019

So how and when do they decide which team automatically skips through to the 2nd round?

Argy1e · Oct 16, 2019

argyleforever":3qiz10f9 said:
So how and when do they decide which team automatically skips through to the 2nd round?

The article answers that. The team left at the end of the draw gets the bye.

WoodsyGreen · Oct 16, 2019

Wouldn't be great to get a bye. What you'd gain in 'free' prize money you'd lose in gate receipts and potential TV cash.

And that's assuming the FA even gives the prize money to the team that gets the bye - seeing as they technically won't have achieved anything.

cheshiregreen · Oct 16, 2019

WoodsyGreen":2lgztnir said:
And that's assuming the FA even gives the prize money to the team that gets the bye - seeing as they technically won't have achieved anything.

If you read the article it tells you they will get the prize money.

WoodsyGreen · Oct 16, 2019

cheshiregreen":3ubylxt7 said:
WoodsyGreen":3ubylxt7 said:

And that's assuming the FA even gives the prize money to the team that gets the bye - seeing as they technically won't have achieved anything.

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If you read the article it tells you they will get the prize money.

Oops, didn't see that bit. Surprisingly generous of the FA.

Gary Wills · Oct 16, 2019

Bit of a lottery though.

JannerinCardiff · Oct 16, 2019

WoodsyGreen":2p6kiutx said:
Wouldn't be great to get a bye. What you'd gain in 'free' prize money you'd lose in gate receipts and potential TV cash.

And that's assuming the FA even gives the prize money to the team that gets the bye - seeing as they technically won't have achieved anything.

You get £36,000 if you get the bye . I much rather a home 1st round tie.

Quizmike · Oct 17, 2019

If anyone is curious, here's the prize structure for each round

Extra preliminary round winners (184) £2,250 Losers receive £750
Preliminary round winners (160) £2,890 Losers receive £960
First round qualifying winners (116) £4,500 Losers receive £1,500
Second Round Qualifying winners (80) £6,750 Losers receive £2,250
Third Round Qualifying winners (40) £11,250 Losers receive £3,750
Fourth Round Qualifying winners (32) £18,750 Losers receive £6,250
First Round Proper winners (40) £36,000
Second Round Proper winners (20) £54,000
Third Round Proper winners (32) £135,000
Fourth Round Proper winners (16) £180,000
Fifth Round Proper winners (8) £360,000
Quarter-Final winners (4) £720,000
Semi-Final winners (2) £1,800,000
Semi-Final losers (2) £900,000
Final runners-up (1) £1,800,000
Final winners (1) £3,600,000

http://www.thefa.com/competitions/thefa ... prize-fund

WoodsyGreen · Oct 17, 2019

When you look at that, it's no wonder big clubs don't take the FA Cup that seriously any more when you consider the winners of this season's Champions League could win prize money of around £75m.

It just isn't worth their while.

memory man · Oct 17, 2019

WoodsyGreen":1khgs8gu said:
When you look at that, it's no wonder big clubs don't take the FA Cup that seriously any more when you consider the winners of this season's Champions League could win prize money of around £75m.

It just isn't worth their while.

That may be true but at least the FA are being pretty generous to smaller clubs. Progress through to the Third Round proper would see a League One or Two club win £90,000 and if they could get through the Third Round then they amass a total of £225,000. Add that to a decent Fourth Round home draw and it is quite a money spinner for the most successful lower league clubs. To make the competition more appealing to big clubs they would have to make a vast reduction to the money available for the early round winners.

Willis88 · Oct 17, 2019

Just a thought:

Given the ticket revenue is split 50:50 each game, the home team are always worse off financially due to them having to host the game(assuming staffing + stewarding + policing + electric + heating isn't offset by any side income - shop/kiosks etc)

(unless travel cost for the visiting team balances the above)

Therefore the home team would need a win to mop up the deficit.

Surely we would rather either a bye or a "local" away draw to a team with a "decent" following and a "decent" size away stand (Bristol/Swindon etc).

Feel free to correct my assumptions.

Pootle's Pom Pom · Oct 17, 2019

Willis88":125bpood said:
Just a thought:

Given the ticket revenue is split 50:50 each game, the home team are always worse off financially due to them having to host the game(assuming staffing + stewarding + policing + electric + heating isn't offset by any side income - shop/kiosks etc)

(unless travel cost for the visiting team balances the above)

Therefore the home team would need a win to mop up the deficit.

Surely we would rather either a bye or a "local" away draw to a team with a "decent" following and a "decent" size away stand (Bristol/Swindon etc).

Feel free to correct my assumptions.

It is the net ticket revenue that is split 50:50 - so gate receipts minus the costs of staffing, police, stewarding etc.

JannerinCardiff · Oct 17, 2019

Pootle's Pom Pom":pepkb0wm said:
Willis88":pepkb0wm said:

Just a thought:

Given the ticket revenue is split 50:50 each game, the home team are always worse off financially due to them having to host the game(assuming staffing + stewarding + policing + electric + heating isn't offset by any side income - shop/kiosks etc)

(unless travel cost for the visiting team balances the above)

Therefore the home team would need a win to mop up the deficit.

Surely we would rather either a bye or a "local" away draw to a team with a "decent" following and a "decent" size away stand (Bristol/Swindon etc).

Feel free to correct my assumptions.

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It is the net ticket revenue that is split 50:50 - so gate receipts minus the costs of staffing, police, stewarding etc.

So if we were at home we’d make money on food, drink and merchandising, sponsorship.. I still rather a home tie against a beatable team... financially at least.