I am afraid that I have never bitten into the Second Messiah status of our current manager.
Having got Bury relegated and then promoted again with a budget that bankrupt the club , he then decamped South and in effect we became Bury Argyle. Something that sat very uneasily with me. We then I feel fairly fortuitously got promoted from a very poor standard League 2, in no small thanks to Coronavirus ,plus an exceptional goalkeeper in Palmer and a very good league 2 midfielder in Sarcevic. Our current squad is made up of youngsters who were already here before him , a load of his Bury best mates, a load of loan signings ,who without being too disparaging range from average downwards. The only players that he has signed that start ( sometimes ) regularly are Edwards and Camara. Although Ennis does look useful I admit. This after 2 years and promises of having mates from Gareth Southgate downwards and players queuing up to play for him. More worryingly he has been tactically outmaneuvered second half by virtually every team this season and many last season ( even those without managers). If our current manager instead of being a sharp dressing Liverpudlian with a high opinion of himself was instead a straight talking Yorkshireman or had a Scottish accent then he would be being lambasted , abused and probably worse. Trying to play like his beloved Liverpool with league 2 players does not do it for me. Never mind the skill where is The pride . The Passion . The Desire .The Wottons , The Fletchers , The Nelsons The Careys , Even The Songo"s. The things that define PROPER FOOTBALL

Never read such absolute rubbish and utter crap.

Probably every statement and sentence I sent very misguided.

He did not bankrupt Bury, and they being relegated when he took over anyhow.

It wasn’t his fault for Covid, and has brought in some very good players.

His origins and accent is totally irrelevant, you need to take a good look at yourself.

It wasn't Lowe's fault for Covid but every team has been affected arguably us less than many others. "He has brought in very good players" is your opinion. I'm with Dustysteve

Not surprised you agree with the original stupid comments, as you are anti RL,

I am not a Lowe fan because although he is personable and talks the talk , I am far from convinced that he is a good manager.The actions on the pitch seem to prove that he is out of his depth and actions speak louder than words. You are quick to dismiss other posters comments as rubbish and whereas not all the statements are correct I agree with the gist of the post. IMO we would not miss Lowe and Mayor if they departed.Both flatter to deceive.

What a load of Sh1t. I Can’t be arsed with a detailed response as to why the OP is speaking nonsense as it will just fall in death ears. Done reading this forum. Full of w@nkers,

I second this. With the exception of today I have not been posting much on here recently, despite being an active member since 2007. The same agendas appear every single game regardless of what happens and the influx of new posters who just word-vomit onto the page without any thought or perspective, have not only severely lowered the quality of discussion, but it’s made PASOTI an unpleasant forum to be a part of.

I am afraid that I have never bitten into the Second Messiah status of our current manager.
Having got Bury relegated and then promoted again with a budget that bankrupt the club , he then decamped South and in effect we became Bury Argyle. Something that sat very uneasily with me. We then I feel fairly fortuitously got promoted from a very poor standard League 2, in no small thanks to Coronavirus ,plus an exceptional goalkeeper in Palmer and a very good league 2 midfielder in Sarcevic. Our current squad is made up of youngsters who were already here before him , a load of his Bury best mates, a load of loan signings ,who without being too disparaging range from average downwards. The only players that he has signed that start ( sometimes ) regularly are Edwards and Camara. Although Ennis does look useful I admit. This after 2 years and promises of having mates from Gareth Southgate downwards and players queuing up to play for him. More worryingly he has been tactically outmaneuvered second half by virtually every team this season and many last season ( even those without managers). If our current manager instead of being a sharp dressing Liverpudlian with a high opinion of himself was instead a straight talking Yorkshireman or had a Scottish accent then he would be being lambasted , abused and probably worse. Trying to play like his beloved Liverpool with league 2 players does not do it for me. Never mind the skill where is The pride . The Passion . The Desire .The Wottons , The Fletchers , The Nelsons The Careys , Even The Songo"s. The things that define PROPER FOOTBALL

Spot on.....Lowe's success is well beyond his ability and experience.....Covid-19 was perfectly timed for Argyle when it froze the season.....it has always puzzled me that Mayor who fades away in the second half never, never gets subbed....his goal scoring is nearly non-existent and his assists (5) are not outstanding either.....yesterday our strikers could have been on another planet...they got no good ball to use from our poor midfield....and our defence at times look like 7yr olds on a Saturday morning committing the same mistakes that gets their dads holding their heads.....I could go on... but you all know that we are only staying up because we have luckily got a big enough buffer to survive....I certainly wouldn't depend on our defence to save my life.

I blame Boris Johnson

And Bungle from Rainbow

I totally blame RL for getting us promoted, keeping us in this division, and giving us a window into what he thinks and why he does certain things.

Easily our best manager since Paul Sturrock; not as good as Paul Sturrock, but definitely good enough for where we are right now and where we want to be in one or two seasons time.

I am afraid that I have never bitten into the Second Messiah status of our current manager.
Having got Bury relegated and then promoted again with a budget that bankrupt the club , he then decamped South and in effect we became Bury Argyle. Something that sat very uneasily with me. We then I feel fairly fortuitously got promoted from a very poor standard League 2, in no small thanks to Coronavirus ,plus an exceptional goalkeeper in Palmer and a very good league 2 midfielder in Sarcevic. Our current squad is made up of youngsters who were already here before him , a load of his Bury best mates, a load of loan signings ,who without being too disparaging range from average downwards. The only players that he has signed that start ( sometimes ) regularly are Edwards and Camara. Although Ennis does look useful I admit. This after 2 years and promises of having mates from Gareth Southgate downwards and players queuing up to play for him. More worryingly he has been tactically outmaneuvered second half by virtually every team this season and many last season ( even those without managers). If our current manager instead of being a sharp dressing Liverpudlian with a high opinion of himself was instead a straight talking Yorkshireman or had a Scottish accent then he would be being lambasted , abused and probably worse. Trying to play like his beloved Liverpool with league 2 players does not do it for me. Never mind the skill where is The pride . The Passion . The Desire .The Wottons , The Fletchers , The Nelsons The Careys , Even The Songo"s. The things that define PROPER FOOTBALL

Never read such absolute rubbish and utter crap.

Probably every statement and sentence I sent very misguided.

He did not bankrupt Bury, and they being relegated when he took over anyhow.

It wasn’t his fault for Covid, and has brought in some very good players.

His origins and accent is totally irrelevant, you need to take a good look at yourself.

It wasn't Lowe's fault for Covid but every team has been affected arguably us less than many others. "He has brought in very good players" is your opinion. I'm with Dustysteve

Not surprised you agree with the original stupid comments, as you are anti RL,

I am not a Lowe fan because although he is personable and talks the talk , I am far from convinced that he is a good manager.The actions on the pitch seem to prove that he is out of his depth and actions speak louder than words. You are quick to dismiss other posters comments as rubbish and whereas not all the statements are correct I agree with the gist of the post. IMO we would not miss Lowe and Mayor if they departed.Both flatter to deceive.

Thankfully, it is not people like you and others, who decide who is our manager.
others, who decide,
Thankfully, there are people like our Directors, and others who decide, people with a better ‘insight and more importantly knowledge’,than the likes of us, who decide.

RL is doing an excellent job, on these different circumstances, long may it continue.

I am afraid that I have never bitten into the Second Messiah status of our current manager.
Having got Bury relegated and then promoted again with a budget that bankrupt the club , he then decamped South and in effect we became Bury Argyle. Something that sat very uneasily with me. We then I feel fairly fortuitously got promoted from a very poor standard League 2, in no small thanks to Coronavirus ,plus an exceptional goalkeeper in Palmer and a very good league 2 midfielder in Sarcevic. Our current squad is made up of youngsters who were already here before him , a load of his Bury best mates, a load of loan signings ,who without being too disparaging range from average downwards. The only players that he has signed that start ( sometimes ) regularly are Edwards and Camara. Although Ennis does look useful I admit. This after 2 years and promises of having mates from Gareth Southgate downwards and players queuing up to play for him. More worryingly he has been tactically outmaneuvered second half by virtually every team this season and many last season ( even those without managers). If our current manager instead of being a sharp dressing Liverpudlian with a high opinion of himself was instead a straight talking Yorkshireman or had a Scottish accent then he would be being lambasted , abused and probably worse. Trying to play like his beloved Liverpool with league 2 players does not do it for me. Never mind the skill where is The pride . The Passion . The Desire .The Wottons , The Fletchers , The Nelsons The Careys , Even The Songo"s. The things that define PROPER FOOTBALL

The original OP is saying that we have a group of players who are league 2 standard at best and loan players who are average or lower. So if I'm reading this right, us finishing mid table in league 1 with a league 2 squad must be down to some excellent management and tactics. Sounds like high praise for Lowe and his team.

I'm a Lowe fan and can see the improvement from last season to this, not least in our league position.

I am afraid that I have never bitten into the Second Messiah status of our current manager.
Having got Bury relegated and then promoted again with a budget that bankrupt the club , he then decamped South and in effect we became Bury Argyle. Something that sat very uneasily with me. We then I feel fairly fortuitously got promoted from a very poor standard League 2, in no small thanks to Coronavirus ,plus an exceptional goalkeeper in Palmer and a very good league 2 midfielder in Sarcevic. Our current squad is made up of youngsters who were already here before him , a load of his Bury best mates, a load of loan signings ,who without being too disparaging range from average downwards. The only players that he has signed that start ( sometimes ) regularly are Edwards and Camara. Although Ennis does look useful I admit. This after 2 years and promises of having mates from Gareth Southgate downwards and players queuing up to play for him. More worryingly he has been tactically outmaneuvered second half by virtually every team this season and many last season ( even those without managers). If our current manager instead of being a sharp dressing Liverpudlian with a high opinion of himself was instead a straight talking Yorkshireman or had a Scottish accent then he would be being lambasted , abused and probably worse. Trying to play like his beloved Liverpool with league 2 players does not do it for me. Never mind the skill where is The pride . The Passion . The Desire .The Wottons , The Fletchers , The Nelsons The Careys , Even The Songo"s. The things that define PROPER FOOTBALL

Never read such absolute rubbish and utter crap.

Probably every statement and sentence I sent very misguided.

He did not bankrupt Bury, and they being relegated when he took over anyhow.

It wasn’t his fault for Covid, and has brought in some very good players.

His origins and accent is totally irrelevant, you need to take a good look at yourself.

It wasn't Lowe's fault for Covid but every team has been affected arguably us less than many others. "He has brought in very good players" is your opinion. I'm with Dustysteve

Not surprised you agree with the original stupid comments, as you are anti RL,

I am not a Lowe fan because although he is personable and talks the talk , I am far from convinced that he is a good manager.The actions on the pitch seem to prove that he is out of his depth and actions speak louder than words. You are quick to dismiss other posters comments as rubbish and whereas not all the statements are correct I agree with the gist of the post. IMO we would not miss Lowe and Mayor if they departed.Both flatter to deceive.

Thankfully, it is not people like you and others, who decide who is our manager.
others, who decide,
Thankfully, there are people like our Directors, and others who decide, people with a better ‘insight and more importantly knowledge’,than the likes of us, who decide.

RL is doing an excellent job, on these different circumstances, long may it continue.

If you think Lowe is doing an excellent job you must have quite low expectations. The current record this season is only marginally better than the relegation season of 18/19 and the goal difference is worse than then. I suspect that based on available funds the cost per point this season is a lot more than it was in 18/19.

We seem to be getting one of these odd posts from a random new poster after every defeat. The doom mungers love it and leap straight on.All very strange.To my mind Lowe has done a good job and kept a very young team competitively and at times we also play some really nice football . Long may he continue and I cannot wait for next season.

My word there's some nonsense being talked on here. This season was ALWAYS about consolidation, which we've done in all but mathmatical certainty. Most promoted teams struggle for form and consistency - only Crewe have more points than us. Even Sturrock's apparent untouchables went through a streak between the end of August and the end of November in 2002 only amassing one victory out of 11 games and then, after a decent unbeaten run of eight games, failed to go more than three games without a defeat until the last month of that season. I'm not in any way suggesting that history could repeat itself but we all know what happened next.

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Can we just relax a bit? Under Lowe we've been promoted then consolidated ourselves in League One.

We'd all have very gladly taken that, now let's see what the management team have got up their sleeves to push us on.

Can we just relax a bit? Under Lowe we've been promoted then consolidated ourselves in League One.

We'd all have very gladly taken that, now let's see what the management team have got up their sleeves to push us on.

Well said