15 L1 clubs to vote to end season

[Dreamgreen]

Promotion and relegation places are supposed to be applied after every team has played each other twice and not with nine games still outstanding.

A simple solution would be to base the final table on the first half of the season, Only include the results of the fixture rounds where clubs played each other for the first time and abandon only the second half of the season. There would be a slight disparity in that half the clubs will have played one game less at home but in sporting terms it would be relatively even.

I have no idea how this would affect the standings because it isn't as simple as using the table as it was at 23 games.

It's just an idea but probably a bit late to throw into the ring at this stage.

LC, you must have stamped on your green-tinted specs! It takes guts to offer a proposal that negatively affects your own team.
By my calculation, on the 'one game against' method, it means the Swindon, Exeter and Crewe are promoted and Argyle miss out on goals scored.

Palace can't have been in the bottom three by his method !

 

[Lundan Cabbie]

Promotion and relegation places are supposed to be applied after every team has played each other twice and not with nine games still outstanding.

A simple solution would be to base the final table on the first half of the season, Only include the results of the fixture rounds where clubs played each other for the first time and abandon only the second half of the season. There would be a slight disparity in that half the clubs will have played one game less at home but in sporting terms it would be relatively even.

I have no idea how this would affect the standings because it isn't as simple as using the table as it was at 23 games.

It's just an idea but probably a bit late to throw into the ring at this stage.

LC, you must have stamped on your green-tinted specs! It takes guts to offer a proposal that negatively affects your own team.
By my calculation, on the 'one game against' method, it means the Swindon, Exeter and Crewe are promoted and Argyle miss out on goals scored.

Palace can't have been in the bottom three by his method !

It's looking likely that Palace will play their games.

 

[Dreamgreen]

Promotion and relegation places are supposed to be applied after every team has played each other twice and not with nine games still outstanding.

A simple solution would be to base the final table on the first half of the season, Only include the results of the fixture rounds where clubs played each other for the first time and abandon only the second half of the season. There would be a slight disparity in that half the clubs will have played one game less at home but in sporting terms it would be relatively even.

I have no idea how this would affect the standings because it isn't as simple as using the table as it was at 23 games.

It's just an idea but probably a bit late to throw into the ring at this stage.

LC, you must have stamped on your green-tinted specs! It takes guts to offer a proposal that negatively affects your own team.
By my calculation, on the 'one game against' method, it means the Swindon, Exeter and Crewe are promoted and Argyle miss out on goals scored.

Palace can't have been in the bottom three by his method !

It's looking likely that Palace will play their games.

They are sooo lucky to have Manure, Liverpool, Chelski, Arsanall and Spurs to be in the same league so that smaller teams like Palace can afford to carry on playing.

 

[Mark58]

Applying a margin of error based on results from a different season is completely unjust and if it’s “sporting integrity” they are seeking, it is devoid of any.

Why not count our results from 2003/04 while we’re at it?

Just make Tranmere play Wimbledon and Macclesfield play Stevenage. Loser goes down.

The alternative is, don’t be poo over 35 games.

:funny: Nobby gets my vote! :thumbs: :scarf:

 

[Keepitgreen]

This is the Tranmere proposal to be voted on by the 71 EFL clubs next Tuesday.

"a) The league table is calculated using a simple PPG basis;
b) There is then applied to the table the statistical average actual margin for error over the last 3 years (being +6.3 or – 5.45%);
c) Teams in the automatic promotion spots even where the margin for error is applied, should be automatically promoted;
d) Teams in the play-off places or who could be in the play-off places where the margin for error is applied should be invited (but not compelled) to compete in a play-off tournament; and
e) There would either be no relegations, or relegations only of clubs who would be relegated even after the margin of error has been applied "

It would mean ONLY Coventry City and Swindon Town would be promoted from their respective Leagues. Funnily enough, Tranmere would stay up.

This contrivance of a proposal would mean Argyle and Crewe could end up in some sort of play-off. Assuming the Championship vote to play out their season then I believe it is down to Leagues 1 and 2 to vote by majority on the proposal, presumably on a League by League basis. Hopefully, it will not attract the necessary support.

That's not how I read it; teams in the auto places will still go up no matter what happens with the margin of error. The margin of error will be applied for the play-off places & in some circumstances relegation.

I agree with your interpretation on the face of it. However, one informed commentator (EFL.Zone on Twiitter who is normally very reliable on EFL matters) has publicly stated that Rotherham who are currently second in L1 would be in the play offs if the Tranmere proposal wins through (It needs 36 votes 13 of which must be Championship clubs for the vote to go through).

Mark Palios, the Chairman of Tranmere who came up with the proposal is quoted as saying (for L2)

"Applying the margin for error outcome, two other clubs (Port Vale and Bradford) are included in a potential play off candidates, which results in a maximum of nine clubs eligible for play offs for the three promotion spots, as none of the top three clubs are sufficiently clear of fourth spot to be promoted automatically"

The contrivance is so complicated so even he doesn't know unless of course his originally stated proposal has been amended for the EFL vote to exclude the automatic promotion spots. What a mess! Transparency from the EFL - where is it? What are the clubs voting actually voting on and in what order?

Same as its leadership - non existent.

 

[Kersie]

They can take as long as they like to sort this mess out because later in the year next season starts more chance fans can go and watch live football....let them all squabble the bottom line is were up... :scarf:

 

[Balham Green]

They can take as long as they like to sort this mess out because later in the year next season starts more chance fans can go and watch live football....let them all squabble the bottom line is were up... :scarf:

That makes no sense. :crazy:

 

[GreenThing]

Whatever is decided needs to be consistent across all leagues as it will set a precedent for any other seasons which may be cut short in the future.

 

[Kersie]

Balham Green shall I (insult removed. Please be respectful. Admin).

 

[Ross]

Sport relies on there being winners and losers. All this "hard luck Tranmere" is doing my head in.

Fine they won their last 3 games straight but those are the only league games they have won in 2020.

Yes they have a game in hand on AFC Wimbledon above them and yes they are still to play them as well. They also have to play 5 of the top 10 so who is to say they will get the points needed in those games?

We were relegated by an even smaller margin than their PPG would suggest - we went down by 3 goals!

Get over it. This situation has to be dealt with.

 

[Biggs]

Yep, we all know that Tranmere wouldn't be doing those mental gymnastics if that method would relegate them.

 

[Kersie]

The only down side to Tranmere getting relegated is we’ve got to go bloody Wimbledon....

 

[oldage]

If the EFL had got their act together sooner and not bottled making a decision we would all know where we stand.
Perhaps they know there is no rush because the new season will not be starting for some time!

 

[Kersie]

I agree

 

[Dreamgreen]

https://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk...ng-voting-intentions-league-one-clubs-2875930

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