Biggs":kxpu8pfx said:
Metal_Green_Mickey":kxpu8pfx said:
Biggs":kxpu8pfx said:
On what planet is being 11 points clear 'limping over the line'? I wouldn't be surprised to see us closer to 20 points clear at the end of the season.
And if you found the first half and even the second half counter attacks 'difficult to appreciate' then i feel sorry for you. There was some ridiculous interplay there for a League 2 side.
Mickey.... RELAX. The system is working, despite what you think. And remember, simply getting out of this league is priority number one, two and three.
20 point gap....given our inconsistencies
We aren't going to finish on 90+ points and teams below us will see at least some finish around the mid seventies range for the 4th and 5th place off place.
By your calculations we will be promoted after Portsmouth game.
I cant have a reasonable debate with you when you say something like that.... :sigh:
You what?
I said 'I wouldn't be surprised' if we we end up 'closer to' a 20 point gap than the 11 point gap we have at the moment. I fail to see how that's unreasonable.... tell me if that's more ridiculous than saying we're limping over the line as we sit double figures in points ahead of the play offs?And by the way, we've been pretty consistent to achieve the fantastic position we now occupy.
I didn't present any calculations, but being promoted after the Pompey game is actually entirely possible as we'd need to be 13 points clear afterwards with four games remaining. As we're currently 11 points clear, is it not a bit weird that you've dismissed that notion as laughable and not worth engaging with?
The language you continually use is utterly bizarre given our position. You're clearly glass half empty and I'm glass half full (for reference, GA1984 is glass overflowing). In the words of Brian Clough to Don Revie. 'I'd rather be like me. You'd rather be like you' :thumbs:
Do I think a 20 point gap come the end of the season (conversation), is worth engaging in? Well bearing in mind how we have picked up 7 points from the last 3 games you would think its possible. The problem is then we have to remember how we achieve those points. A very fortunate win against Mansfield, a draw against Wycombe where we only just got a foothold in the game by midway in the second half and then Morecambe where after a decent 45 mins we retreated from half time onwards and lost all impetuous.
So to achieve this magical 90 point margin would mean they need 18 points from the last 8 games. Basically 6 games to win. Can they do it? Sure. Will they do it? No. Simply because their performances are so inconsistent (and that's me being positive in describing it in that way) that they cant pick up that many wins because they aren't playing well enough. As for the other teams Luton, Stevenage, Carlisle, Portsmouth you might see two of these teams put some run together. Currently in the form table for the last 10 games are Stevenage at 1 and Portsmouth at 2. So I am thinking 3rd and 4th realistically should get in the high seventies given these teams have proven they can go on decent runs.
So that's why I don't see a 20 point gap. If we finish with a 10 point gap between ourselves and 4th place it will be a remarkable achievement. The Fratton Park encounter will be the pivotal point. Lose that and I feel it will be in for a nail biter end to the season. Especially if Luton win their game in hand.
My language is utterly bizarre is it? Then why are there a number of posts (including this thread), by different people continuing saying how bad the football is and that how fortunate we are to be in the position we find ourselves. You just choose to ignore or dismiss these comments.
Hand on heart, for your sake (and many of the long suffering Argyle fans) I hope you turn out to be right about the way we shall go on to win promotion. I say this because I want us to get promoted, but deep down I know we have been very fortunate to be in the situation we find ourselves, so can logically understand why we may struggle to obtain the results we need between now and the end of the season.
If Argyle don't achieve promotion it will perplex you because you fail to grasp just how bad we have been at times this season. Its got nothing to do with glass half full or empty. The simple fact is Argyle have managed to get here playing a brand of counter attacking, negative style tactics. Open the game up and we get crushed by the worse teams in the division as previous results have proven at home.
Yes its currently doing the job. Yet is it a good brand of football. No. All you see is Argyle in 2nd place. All I see is games like today, where the 2nd half we shut up shop and tried to hold on to a 1 goal lead with a not very convincing defensive second half display which is down to luck, at times, more than judgement.