The police think they are immune to criticism so this ought to give them something to think about.
Voice_of_Reason":261msbwl said:I mention this with slightly cowered shoulders, as to some it will seem insensitive and pointing the finger of blame elsewhere, but thats not how it is meant.
For years after the tragedy, much was blamed on the sheer number of people who arrived at the ground either without tickets or tickets that were forged/fake/photocopied (depends what you want to read believe) - this part of enquiry has been completely banished, did i miss the section where this was dis-proved or has society/media forgotten it as it portrays some kind of guilt on the supporters themselves?
Clearly the actions of the police and those in authority is now rightly being questioned - a generation too late, but still action has been taken, the actual process after the incident is shambolic at best, but surely that doesn't take away from the fact that the whole accident was caused by many thousands of people who had no right to be there, gaining access to the ground - when was this taken off the table as a discussion point?
Having attended Anfield this year and life long friend and a couple of season ticket holders, i know and understand their frustration, sadness and anger and i wish to cast no blame to someone who died merely because they went to support "their" team, but highly curious as to when this rather major point no longer became valid?
Voice_of_Reason":9v7awjcl said:I mention this with slightly cowered shoulders, as to some it will seem insensitive and pointing the finger of blame elsewhere, but thats not how it is meant.
For years after the tragedy, much was blamed on the sheer number of people who arrived at the ground either without tickets or tickets that were forged/fake/photocopied (depends what you want to read believe) - this part of enquiry has been completely banished, did i miss the section where this was dis-proved or has society/media forgotten it as it portrays some kind of guilt on the supporters themselves?
Clearly the actions of the police and those in authority is now rightly being questioned - a generation too late, but still action has been taken, the actual process after the incident is shambolic at best, but surely that doesn't take away from the fact that the whole accident was caused by many thousands of people who had no right to be there, gaining access to the ground - when was this taken off the table as a discussion point?
Having attended Anfield this year and life long friend and a couple of season ticket holders, i know and understand their frustration, sadness and anger and i wish to cast no blame to someone who died merely because they went to support "their" team, but highly curious as to when this rather major point no longer became valid?
Voice_of_Reason":jbqbvq2k said:Thank you Lundan, i do recall this, but that to me just muddy things further.
If 24,000 people turned upto an arena were the health and safety executive said that a capacity of 24,000 people was easily and safely maintained, how come the health and safety executive have never been called in to answer questions? As clearly to anyone who has witnessed those dreadful pictures, there were more people in that enclosure than was safe to do so.