Maastricht 1 - 2 Argyle Match thread

[Balham Green]

I find you an antagonistic so and so most of the time BG but in your defence I only saw that as an innocuous and simple question.

I just get a bad press!

 

[jimsing]

Deservedly so, imo!

 

[Balham Green]

Derek Adams said that up until Holland it was about fitness, now it's about performance and playing the system etc...

Or that's what I remember reading somewhere...

Sounds familiar.

What UTL is referring to however is not literal. It's a coded message that no-one is allowed to get over excited about a win because he wasn't allowed to wallow in negativity when we drew.

It's a little bit petty but there you go.

Pre-season is one of the few times you can get excited though without results meaning too much. By which I mean looking at your team and enjoying how your team may be shaping up and any stand out performances.

And yet by the same token be told you're a troll / want Argyle to fail if you show any concern after negative results

lol, you want to look back at the Portsmouth semi final thread UTL. You have a very short memory. Whilst you were spent months and months being negative I remember there being a backlash against you after we had won. So far from call you any names or tell you where to stick it like other posters were I actually said we should draw a line under the matter and actually realise we support the same team. I tried to show a level of maturity. So far from have a go at you, I tried to actually defend you and stop the arguing.

However, new season. A pre-season to get excited about and off you go again killing any fun or optimism some of us are trying to have. We might have a crap season as you predict but then is when we should be sad, gutted or depressed. Not now, for heavens sake.

I tell you why I called BG a troll. Basically because he has done nothing but post anti-Argyle rubbish for months. He calls it "realism" well basically realism can work two ways. Although not in his world. So yeah to me he is a internet troll with nothing better to do than annoy people who try and enjoy something and means a lot to them.

There is a way of showing concern. What it doesn't mean is post after post after post being negative without any real foundation behind it because the season hasn't even got under way.

I will be surprised if Argyle go up this year with a completely new assembled squad. I don't tell people in every post or make it clear every time that I don't think we will have a good season. I don't point out we may have players not up to it. Simply because people want to enjoy ARGYLE.

I dare say you will have your moment in the sun to take delight when Argyle results dip. You can say to us all I told you so and reveal in the delight of being right. That's all the satisfaction you will get from this season, according to your predictions of how Argyle will do.

Why on earth do you support Argyle if he makes you this miserable!

And he goes on and on and on. And clearly mods are happy for someone to continually use the term troll. This guy may not be a troll but definitely (personal insult removed by Admin). Wouldn't mind if there was any truth in what he was saying.

 

[philevs]

Someone was asking which subs got on and how many players we dressed.

Argyle (4-3-3): 23 Luke McCormick; 2 Gary Miller, 4 Yann Songo’o, 15 Sonny Bradley, 3 Gary Sawyer; 24 David Fox (16 Ben Purrington 84), 10 Graham Carey, 18 Oscar Threlkeld; 14 Jake Jervis, 9 Jimmy Spencer (8 Jordan Slew 72), 7 David Goodwillie (11 Ryan Donaldson 72). Substitutes (not used): 5 Nauris Bulvitis, 6 Connor Smith, 17 Jordan Bentley, 20 Louis Rooney, 22 David Ijaha.

Thanks, it was me that asked.
Do you also happen to know how many subs DA could have used, in accordance with the rules of engagement?

Yawn

Hi, you don't know the answer then, I take it?!

 

[PL2 3DQ]

The daily articles from Holland by Rob McNichol on the club website have been excellent, a breath of fresh air and amusing. :clap:

 

[mervyn]

Interesting that Steve Pressley has just been sacked by Fleetwood after four poor pre-season friendly results against Dutch teams.

 

[philevs]

I fail to see why anybody would need to know how many subs we COULD have made in a pointless pre season friendly.

1) I don't think the club see it as a pointless friendly
and
2) I wanted to know whether the most players possible had been given match time

 

[Mark Pedlar]

Look Phil.

I expect no-one here knows the answer to the number of subs Adams was allowed to use.

The Maastricht friendly was part of pre-season build up. Adams will have wanted to get certain things out of it.

Whether 'match time for the whole squad' was part of his aim only the management team will know.

It's not important. He is building up for the first league game, as long as we get there right then pre-season will have worked. The whole squad have had lots of match time in the games to date. Equalising match time is important to no-one.

 

[Raphael90]

Anyone shed any light on the trouble outside the ground before and after the game in Maastricht??

 

[Raphael90]

A small number of our fans seemed to get attacked at the turnstiles??

 

[Mark Pedlar]

From bits and pieces of reports it wasn't one sided.

 

[Knarf Reprah]

A small number of our fans seemed to get attacked at the turnstiles??

Are you the press? Let's concentrate on the football eh?

 

[HC Green]

When in the ground we were told that a group of Argyle fans were 'attacked' outside the ground just before the game.
As a result the stewards asked us to remain in the ground afterwards and then those that came by car were escorted to the car parks. The rest of us who were going back into the town either to hotels or the train station were kept in a bit longer.
Outside the ground was a number of police with dogs.
I went around the ground to see the team off but as I got there the group of Argyle fans that had been 'atracked' were there with the police and dogs keeping the locals away from them. This is what the last picture on GOS is showing. At this point I decided to go back and get the first bus into town.
The security fencing and segregation inside the ground suggests they have a bit of trouble at games.
It was noticeable that the Argyle fans 'attacked, was a group of 'lads', who gave us a rendition of God Save the Queen with No Surrender included. Songs about what the Dutch could do with clogs and choruses of England, Englander.. and You're just a small town in Belgium.

 

[jollygreenjohn]

When in the ground we were told that a group of Argyle fans were 'attacked' outside the ground just before the game.
As a result the stewards asked us to remain in the ground afterwards and then those that came by car were escorted to the car parks. The rest of us who were going back into the town either to hotels or the train station were kept in a bit longer.
Outside the ground was a number of police with dogs.
I went around the ground to see the team off but as I got there the group of Argyle fans that had been 'atracked' were there with the police and dogs keeping the locals away from them. This is what the last picture on GOS is showing. At this point I decided to go back and get the first bus into town.
The security fencing and segregation inside the ground suggests they have a bit of trouble at games.
It was noticeable that the Argyle fans 'attacked, was a group of 'lads', who gave us a rendition of God Save the Queen with No Surrender included. Songs about what the Dutch could do with clogs and choruses of England, Englander.. and You're just a small town in Belgium.

Ah the usual charmers then. Cue the usual appeasers that all clubs have their element and it was much worse back in the day but that doesn't make it any more acceptable and they are nothing but a big embarrassment to our club.

 

[loyal1970]

From bits and pieces of reports it wasn't one sided.

what reports mark ? Because I can tell you it was one sided from the brave heart Dutch.