What would be interesting is to hear from someone who knows a lot about it, ie a quality keeper or even (god forbid) Coops himself to get a perspective.
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Defending Free Kicks in Addition to The Wall
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Surely if you put a defender on the line then attackers can then impede the goalkeeper's view by standing in front of him without being in offside positions.
Lundan Cabbie":9dl649ii said:
Stick the keeper in the wall then...
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doozer":247kofke said:
so you know more than Joe Hart do you? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvWiOroJwJk
As he says the keeper needs to have an eye line on the ball and if the striker puts it up and over the wall not much you can do about it.
Perhaps you haven't watched enough football.
Too much analysis and theorising, Goals are scored from free kicks every week against top class experienced Keepers, never mind youngsters learning their trade.
He may only be a League 1 player but I donât think Beckham in his pomp could have hit that free kick better than Pigott did. Cooper could have been stood behind the wall and still might not have saved it because it was so well placed and also hit with a bit of pace and whip. Pigott was absolutely delighted when it went in because he had probably been practising it all week on the training ground.
The basic rule of thumb has always been for the Keeper to cover one side and the wall the other. I saw the first Port Vale goal against Exeter on Saturday. The ball was several yards further out and the Exeter keeper was also to one side; he never got anywhere near it either.
Sometimes, you have to give the goalscorer some credit as we did when Carey scored a screamer from 25 yards against Portsmouth a couple of seasons back. Good players can do that and I am expecting George Cooper to chip in with 2 or 3 goals from free kicks around the box.
The real concern should be Argyleâs shambolic Mickey Mouse defending.
Iâm sure Lowe and Co. are working hard to address it and they have to because we are not going to score 4 every week.
He may only be a League 1 player but I donât think Beckham in his pomp could have hit that free kick better than Pigott did. Cooper could have been stood behind the wall and still might not have saved it because it was so well placed and also hit with a bit of pace and whip. Pigott was absolutely delighted when it went in because he had probably been practising it all week on the training ground.
The basic rule of thumb has always been for the Keeper to cover one side and the wall the other. I saw the first Port Vale goal against Exeter on Saturday. The ball was several yards further out and the Exeter keeper was also to one side; he never got anywhere near it either.
Sometimes, you have to give the goalscorer some credit as we did when Carey scored a screamer from 25 yards against Portsmouth a couple of seasons back. Good players can do that and I am expecting George Cooper to chip in with 2 or 3 goals from free kicks around the box.
The real concern should be Argyleâs shambolic Mickey Mouse defending.
Iâm sure Lowe and Co. are working hard to address it and they have to because we are not going to score 4 every week.
I have no criticism of our keeper - I remember being told I made a mistake once, when I was younger......forget what it was now!
Am interested in the idea of putting the keeper in front of the wall at 10 yards & the wall behind him - assuming wall is in the box - with 2 (or more) payers on the line. Would certainly be different & would make for some fun....
Why not?
Am interested in the idea of putting the keeper in front of the wall at 10 yards & the wall behind him - assuming wall is in the box - with 2 (or more) payers on the line. Would certainly be different & would make for some fun....
Why not?
Thereâs no question that it was a well taken free kick. Thereâs also no question that Cooper encouraged him to go for it by positioning himself too far over to his left. If he got it over the wall he couldnât fail to score. Rhys Wilmot will have pointed this out to him on Monday morning Iâm sure.
Devongreenowl":aw954g3o said:
So if he got it over the wall he would score would he? :funny: .
Actually he needs to get it to dip very quickly. Its quite a difficult skill. The likes of Ronaldo make it look easy. What Cooper could have done of course was stand behind the wall and not be able to see the ball until the last second. The so called goalkeeping 'experts' don't seem to have considered that.
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Balham_Green":3mtg9z8k said:
Or he could have had one less player in the wall so that his view wasnât blocked if he moved to his right 2/3 feet and made the target smaller.
Again, Iâm not sure why all of a sudden you need to be an âexpertâ to give an opinion on this. What exactly are you an âexpertâ in for all of the opinions youâve given on here over the years?
Daz":3gmm17zj said:
I was referring to to the video by Joe Hart above. Ex England keeper not enough of an expert for you?
I try to avoid criticising the individual technique of players who have reached a level we could only dream about. So what are your goalkeeping credentials? Great idea to take a player out of the wall. :facepalm: Why not take them all out?
If the wall is set up right and the keeper is in the right position , then the only place the attacker should be able to score is close to either post...watch the free kick again, it ends up a good 2 meters inside the post...I guarantee the gk coach will talk to him about his positioningBalham_Green":2ly407j3 said:
I am sure that Mike Cooper is a very conscientious lad and HE will be asking his coach what he did wrong, if anything.
HE will also have wanted to know whether Rhys Willmott thinks that he could have done better with regard to the other 6 goals that he conceded in the last 2 games.
It seems unfair that, in 2 games littered with defensive errors, everyone wants to discuss the goalkeeping.
In my opinion, that was the least of our problems.
HE will also have wanted to know whether Rhys Willmott thinks that he could have done better with regard to the other 6 goals that he conceded in the last 2 games.
It seems unfair that, in 2 games littered with defensive errors, everyone wants to discuss the goalkeeping.
In my opinion, that was the least of our problems.
I am not criticizing Cooper because he's a promising young player and great shot stopper.
Defences benefit enormously from a keeper who comes out and takes balls in the air and who is also very vocal in organising the defenders in front of him, which you cant expect from someone so young.
Defences benefit enormously from a keeper who comes out and takes balls in the air and who is also very vocal in organising the defenders in front of him, which you cant expect from someone so young.