Metal_Green_Mickey":17aejr3y said:
Knibbsworth":17aejr3y said:
Metal_Green_Mickey":17aejr3y said:
DartingtonPilgrim":17aejr3y said:
gaspargomez":17aejr3y said:
I thought the plan was to sign proven League One defenders ?
The fact is Argyle has only signed one- Wilson from Ipswich.
Scarr and Gillesphey are unproven and untried at League One level. We have been in this situation previously and it hasn’t worked out well.
Proven league one defenders like Canavan and Wootton ?
If you listened to MK Dons and Rochdale fans l remember especially Wootton they warned us they weren’t league one standard.
Nathan Baker from Bristol City would be a decent league one defender. Injury prone but good pedigree. Unfortunately, these type of players cost money.
Players from the division above usually do cost a lot of money. Money we don’t have btw.
Canavan and Wootton were part of a good defence that got out of League Two. It is fashionable to slag them off.
The other defenders we had to compare them to beforehand were Bradley and Vyner, and sadly for the next lads in the door both of those were Championship level defenders. We were lucky to have two at the same time and they made everyone else look poor by comparison.
If Canavan was as crap as some make out, then why did we miss him so much when he went to Bradford?
Have a look at our form after January after Wootton and Canavan went, and it doesn’t support the judgement that they were the problem.
The same Canavan that played in 38 games in league one under Adams and helped to get us relegated. If he wasn’t part of the problem then lm not sure what was.
As for Wootton we all saw enough of him. He tried. He gave everything. Yet he wasn’t as good as Canavan. The same Canavan, who with Edwards, allowed us to have shipped in 80 league one goals.
The only reason why Canavan and Wootton would be looked back with any fondness was because how bad Apoku and Watts were in the final few months.
They both starred in the 0-4 home defeat against Rochdale. One of the worst displays at HP last season.
Put it this way. You saw how bad our defence was last season. And Lowe choose to ship them out. So if they aren’t the problem, then Lowe’s judgement must be very questionable because he played Watts almost every game last season.
“Helped us get relegated”. What an odd phrase.
Teams can only compete at any level when they are all pulling in the same direction, and for reasons unknown that wasn’t the case. Players downed tools for Adams and not many on here know the specifics, myself included.
However to blame exclusively Canavan and Wootton for the relegation season is a little bizarre. (Especially when Wootton wasn’t even really playing.)
Do you use the same argument to decide Lameiras, Ladapo and Carey couldn’t really cut it at League One level? Of course you wouldn’t.
When you consider DA’s team shouldn’t have got relegated on 50 points (but for that awful dressing room capitulation), that under Lowe they won promotion using a new defensive formation with one of the best defensive records in League Two, and that last season we
weren’t relegated, where is the evidence these guys aren’t good enough for League One? Wootton even went to Wigan and kept them up in the same season.