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7000 missing
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IJN":yunglzxp said:
Big big big part of it...lllacquaintance of mine had to decide between watching Barca or spending £40 watching Argo ......no brainier is it?
Seems like the major disagreement here is whether you consider the extra 7,000 who turned up for the derby as "fans" and a segment of the population who we could harness and expect to attend regularly.
My personal view is that these folks cannot be considered "fans" or "supporters" per se. They turn up because of an event, not because they want to support the team. We will never make them regulars, and we should never expect to. Not in L2, not in L1 and not in the Championship. In the PL for a season maybe, then after that we would probably lose 50% of those newbies anyway. They will rock up a handful of times a year as and how they choose. No amount of club initiatives can increase the gates by a significant amount. We could've won 7-0 v Exeter and it wouldn't have had any impact on last nights attendance.
I think part of the problem lies in the fact that in generations gone by, men (and women?) would have supported their local club ad taken their kids along as a right of passage. Therefore you had a natural succession of fans. Now so may working adults either move away for better opportunities and/or choose to support a PL team from Sky that their kids do not grow up with affinity to our club.
So maybe we need to stop talking about the "missing" X thousand.
My personal view is that these folks cannot be considered "fans" or "supporters" per se. They turn up because of an event, not because they want to support the team. We will never make them regulars, and we should never expect to. Not in L2, not in L1 and not in the Championship. In the PL for a season maybe, then after that we would probably lose 50% of those newbies anyway. They will rock up a handful of times a year as and how they choose. No amount of club initiatives can increase the gates by a significant amount. We could've won 7-0 v Exeter and it wouldn't have had any impact on last nights attendance.
I think part of the problem lies in the fact that in generations gone by, men (and women?) would have supported their local club ad taken their kids along as a right of passage. Therefore you had a natural succession of fans. Now so may working adults either move away for better opportunities and/or choose to support a PL team from Sky that their kids do not grow up with affinity to our club.
So maybe we need to stop talking about the "missing" X thousand.
But what does the club do to try and negate this shortfall?.....
You've got Christmas round the corner as well. For me it was pure and simple cost.
If they'd done a City and Orient for £30.00 and advertised it well a thousand more could have been there, with improved atmosphere and extra revenue from programmes, pasties etc.
I've asked this before and so have several others. What does the Marketing department do? I think they've hibernated for Winter.
You've got Christmas round the corner as well. For me it was pure and simple cost.
If they'd done a City and Orient for £30.00 and advertised it well a thousand more could have been there, with improved atmosphere and extra revenue from programmes, pasties etc.
I've asked this before and so have several others. What does the Marketing department do? I think they've hibernated for Winter.
I have to admit to a certain amount of annoyance with the posts on this thread. I do know the adage that if that cap fits then wear it but a lot of comments are just totally out of order. I was one of the 14008 at the Exeter game and even bought a Romanian friend with me. We flew in from Romania after work on Friday night into Luton, drove to Plymouth very early sat Saturday morning saw the game then flew back Sunday. I want even start on the cost of it all suffice to say getting back to Plymouth for Tuesday night. Does that make me less of a fan? Cos listening to you lot makes me feel like it!!!!
No mate, I think people are talking about the vast majority of the missing 7,000. The ones that live within Plymouth.
What should be the rank and file support of PLYMOUTH Argyle.
No one can expect people to travel hundreds of thousands of miles for a mid week game. That's just daft.
What should be the rank and file support of PLYMOUTH Argyle.
No one can expect people to travel hundreds of thousands of miles for a mid week game. That's just daft.
Knarf Reprah":gilfzuzp said:
Agree; no brainer, Argyle every time for me. Haven't even checked how the 2 Manchester teams are doing tonight yet. I may watch the highlights.
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I do understand the whole people are entitled to go to the games they want to and money is an issue etc, but I doubt many clubs could lose 55% of their attendance in 3 days. The gate last night would have probably been the same if we beat Exeter incidentally, so I don't buy the argument that losing in-front of a big crowd has a detrimental effect.
The 7000 fans weren't missing at all. They were a bonus,an indication of what this club could get through the turnstiles if we were in the next league up,or higher.However they won't come week in,week out, whilst we are in the fourth division,and indeed are losing especially when you most needed a win.
