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Presto":a24vc3xd said:
Michael Foot may have been an Argyle supporter but he dishonoured those who died in WW2 by turning up as a total
Scruff bag at the Cenotaph.

Going off topic i know, but that is absolutely, unequivocally and certifiably nonsense of the highest degree.

Did he know anything at all about fashion? No, though ironically wearing that very expensive coat was an attempt to be fashionable. Did he ever knowingly dishonour those who died in WWII? The very notion is an outrage.
 

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so which newspapers are we, the great unwashed, actually permitted to read? Every last one of them will be full of the lies whichever political party that sponsors them, wants them to try and brainwash us with.

It's not about what paper you read, it's about questioning what you read and engaging with it critically. It's not about the great unwashed, it's about not taking diatribe, opinion and polemic as fact. As you say, they all peddle something. That's true whether you read one type of paper or another. I read papers of a different political point of view to mine as well as those that I have sympathy with. Know thine enemy and all that... and sometimes, it's a healthy check on what you assume to be right. The problem these days is that with social media buzfeed crap people only end up looking at (often fake) news that supports their own little world view. So we end up in little camps that don't engage with each other, and with more extreme and intolerant views as a consequence. Kids should be taught how to critically engage with news at school these days.

Again off topic (sorry) but i'd recommend The Week as an excellent example of the above. A mixed editorial team picking out the best articles from ALL British and international papers.
 
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Welcome to the Socialist Republic of PASOTI. :whistle:
It's not just a Leftie thing though to find the DM objectionable. (There are posters on this very thread I'm sure would be quite annoyed to be labelled 'Leftie' who recoil at that rag). I heard this week that Wikipedia have now stopped allowing the DM to be used as source material in their attempt to stop Fake news stories........says it all.
 

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Michael Foot may have been an Argyle supporter but he dishonoured those who died in WW2 by turning up as a total Scruff bag at the Cenotaph. And yes there are equal numbers of sh-ts on the right. Lets stick to the footie and forget the political ideologicsl rants.

Unwarranted, the Tory press at that time used his appearance to beat him with a stick. It's been well documented that the coat he wore was an expensive present from his wife. It was obviously not his intention to dishonour anyone.

Anyway - let's stick to footie.
 
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Presto":u7zys3jw said:
Michael Foot may have been an Argyle supporter but he dishonoured those who died in WW2 by turning up as a total Scruff bag at the Cenotaph. And yes there are equal numbers of sh-ts on the right. Lets stick to the footie and forget the political ideologicsl rants.

Unwarranted, the Tory press at that time used his appearance to beat him with a stick. It's been well documented that the coat he wore was an expensive present from his wife. It was obviously not his intention to dishonour anyone.

Anyway - let's stick to footie.

Not mention that coat was complemented by the Queen Mother I believe! (Not that I wish to get political,but today you see your Corbyn attacked for sending condolences to the McGuiness family but the same reports do not say that PM May and the Queen have also done so similar!)

If he had more sway I don't believe we would have ever gotten in this mess, no matter who was involved, he would have been against the ground being sold out from PCC. That is my main reason against the ground being sold back to JB. I know what MF judgement would be and I know I trust his judgement (the same judgement that saw me back British withdrawal from the EU.) Foot is an hero of mine, even when you disagree with him, I still can see and understand his arguments, I wish he was still alive to be on our board and if nothing else, he is the reason why we have PPE, the amount of time off et al, basic rights, as minister for employment, bringing in HASAWA 74 . The man deserves respect IMO! :nworthy: :nworthy:
 
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Only on Pasoti could an OP from a journalist asking for survey respondents get completely ignored, and instead spark a conversation about Michael Foot's decision to wear a coat once.
 

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MarkMatthews":2gss9ilj said:
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Presto":2gss9ilj said:
Michael Foot may have been an Argyle supporter but he dishonoured those who died in WW2 by turning up as a total Scruff bag at the Cenotaph. And yes there are equal numbers of sh-ts on the right. Lets stick to the footie and forget the political ideologicsl rants.

Unwarranted, the Tory press at that time used his appearance to beat him with a stick. It's been well documented that the coat he wore was an expensive present from his wife. It was obviously not his intention to dishonour anyone.

Anyway - let's stick to footie.

Not mention that coat was complemented by the Queen Mother I believe! (Not that I wish to get political,but today you see your Corbyn attacked for sending condolences to the McGuiness family but the same reports do not say that PM May and the Queen have also done so similar!)

If he had more sway I don't believe we would have ever gotten in this mess, no matter who was involved, he would have been against the ground being sold out from PCC. That is my main reason against the ground being sold back to JB. I know what MF judgement would be and I know I trust his judgement (the same judgement that saw me back British withdrawal from the EU.) Foot is an hero of mine, even when you disagree with him, I still can see and understand his arguments, I wish he was still alive to be on our board and if nothing else, he is the reason why we have PPE, the amount of time off et al, basic rights, as minister for employment, bringing in HASAWA 74 . The man deserves respect IMO! :nworthy: :nworthy:


Michael Foot would be coming up for his 104th birthday if he was still alive and on our board.
 

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This survey, that is a simple questionnaire, inviting supporters to indicate their opinions about their club and it's owners, together with opinions on the EFL, has, for some reason, been turned into a political 'free for all' that would be more appropriate on the 'Opinions' forum.
 
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davie nine":12ss1kra said:
This survey, that is a simple questionnaire, inviting supporters to indicate their opinions about their club and it's owners, together with opinions on the EFL, has, for some reason, been turned into a political 'free for all' that would be more appropriate on the 'Opinions' forum.
As would the Daily Mail, a narrow opinions forum.

Personally I find the thread diversion reassuring. It shows what a principled and free thinking bunch we are, resistant to 'spin' and wary of 'skew' :clap: