EFL TROPHY?

[SWTT]

Making the competition zorb football would be a greater idea to garner interest than the introduction of Derby u21s/23s/reserves (or whatever team it is they're supposed to be fielding now?!). I'd certainly pay to see Jervis and Co clattering into each other in giant inflatables. Reduces the risk of injury that way too. Win win.

 

[Stuart House]

Save for the fact it is far far to late and posted only hours before kick off of the first game, the statement is total BS.

What does "not necessarily advocating a boycott" mean? Are you or aren't you?

Trust individuals are obviously far to busy pushing their own agendas elsewhere.

 

[PL2 3DQ]

At it’s meeting last Saturday the AFT Board discussed the merits of the new English Football League Trophy, or Checkatrade Trophy as it has since been called. It is our unanimous view that this reinvention of what was the Johnstone’s Paint Trophy. We believe the competition to be inherently flawed for the following reasons:
• In its previous incarnations as the Freight Rover, Sherpa Van, Leyland DAF, Auto Windscreens and LDV Vans Trophy the early rounds have been very poorly attended. The logic in changing these early rounds into Group Matches makes no sense.
• The idea of the competition being regionalised in the group stages does not hold water with Argyle drawn against two Welsh clubs and a London team.
• The involvement of academy teams could be seen as a precedent being set for allowing Premiership second teams into the football League structure, which is their intention. It is interesting to note though that some top clubs such as Manchester United have chosen not to take part.
• One of the main planks of this Trophy was that it gave the little team a chance to enjoy its day at Wembley. The introduction of Premiership teams can only reduce that opportunity.
• Lower league teams will now have to play more games, but will not be allowed to rotate their squads, even if their pool of players is large enough. This comes against the backdrop of a suggested new five division structure for the Football League, which uses the argument that we are already playing too many games.
While the AFT is not necessarily advocating a boycott of these matches, we have little faith in its current format. There are only so many times you can try and breathe life into a dying entity. If this latest embodiment of the Trophy is not successful, perhaps it is time to let it wither on the vine?

Sorry, that is 3 months too late and far too wishy washy.
Have a look at other Trusts and what they are doing/saying.

 

[dunlop]

For to agree with postys post above the AFT have been reactive instead of being proactive.

 

[Ollieargyle9]

At it’s meeting last Saturday the AFT Board discussed the merits of the new English Football League Trophy, or Checkatrade Trophy as it has since been called. It is our unanimous view that this reinvention of what was the Johnstone’s Paint Trophy. We believe the competition to be inherently flawed for the following reasons:
• In its previous incarnations as the Freight Rover, Sherpa Van, Leyland DAF, Auto Windscreens and LDV Vans Trophy the early rounds have been very poorly attended. The logic in changing these early rounds into Group Matches makes no sense.
• The idea of the competition being regionalised in the group stages does not hold water with Argyle drawn against two Welsh clubs and a London team.
• The involvement of academy teams could be seen as a precedent being set for allowing Premiership second teams into the football League structure, which is their intention. It is interesting to note though that some top clubs such as Manchester United have chosen not to take part.
• One of the main planks of this Trophy was that it gave the little team a chance to enjoy its day at Wembley. The introduction of Premiership teams can only reduce that opportunity.
• Lower league teams will now have to play more games, but will not be allowed to rotate their squads, even if their pool of players is large enough. This comes against the backdrop of a suggested new five division structure for the Football League, which uses the argument that we are already playing too many games.
While the AFT is not necessarily advocating a boycott of these matches, we have little faith in its current format. There are only so many times you can try and breathe life into a dying entity. If this latest embodiment of the Trophy is not successful, perhaps it is time to let it wither on the vine?

Sorry, that is 3 months too late and far too wishy washy.
Have a look at other Trusts and what they are doing/saying.

Agreed Ian, a spineless statement which amazingly has taken 3 months for the Trust to make.

Many fans like myself have taken it upon ourselves to boycott today's game and "our" Trust rather than back us is beating around the bush suggesting it doesn't actively encourage a boycott.

I am ashamed that Argyle's Trust was not involved at the heart of the debate where clubs like Portsmouth and Wimbledon took a lead role because they like us know what corporate scheming can do to a club, they know who picks up the pieces when the corporate suits are bored because the money has dried up. They have protests planned, boycotts ongoing, have held Football League reps to account at meeting and in Q&As, have made great efforts to raise awareness of lower league club's struggle in local media outlets. Meanwhile this is the best the AFT has come up with, poor show.

 

[Lundan Cabbie]

At it’s meeting last Saturday the AFT Board discussed the merits of the new English Football League Trophy, or Checkatrade Trophy as it has since been called. It is our unanimous view that this reinvention of what was the Johnstone’s Paint Trophy. We believe the competition to be inherently flawed for the following reasons:
• In its previous incarnations as the Freight Rover, Sherpa Van, Leyland DAF, Auto Windscreens and LDV Vans Trophy the early rounds have been very poorly attended. The logic in changing these early rounds into Group Matches makes no sense.
• The idea of the competition being regionalised in the group stages does not hold water with Argyle drawn against two Welsh clubs and a London team.
• The involvement of academy teams could be seen as a precedent being set for allowing Premiership second teams into the football League structure, which is their intention. It is interesting to note though that some top clubs such as Manchester United have chosen not to take part.
• One of the main planks of this Trophy was that it gave the little team a chance to enjoy its day at Wembley. The introduction of Premiership teams can only reduce that opportunity.
• Lower league teams will now have to play more games, but will not be allowed to rotate their squads, even if their pool of players is large enough. This comes against the backdrop of a suggested new five division structure for the Football League, which uses the argument that we are already playing too many games.
While the AFT is not necessarily advocating a boycott of these matches, we have little faith in its current format. There are only so many times you can try and breathe life into a dying entity. If this latest embodiment of the Trophy is not successful, perhaps it is time to let it wither on the vine?

Do you mean Premier League teams or do you mean Premiership as in Celtic and Rangers? Who has confirmed this is the intention? Link?

 

[Ham Green]

At it’s meeting last Saturday the AFT Board discussed the merits of the new English Football League Trophy, or Checkatrade Trophy as it has since been called. It is our unanimous view that this reinvention of what was the Johnstone’s Paint Trophy. We believe the competition to be inherently flawed for the following reasons:
• In its previous incarnations as the Freight Rover, Sherpa Van, Leyland DAF, Auto Windscreens and LDV Vans Trophy the early rounds have been very poorly attended. The logic in changing these early rounds into Group Matches makes no sense.
• The idea of the competition being regionalised in the group stages does not hold water with Argyle drawn against two Welsh clubs and a London team.
• The involvement of academy teams could be seen as a precedent being set for allowing Premiership second teams into the football League structure, which is their intention. It is interesting to note though that some top clubs such as Manchester United have chosen not to take part.
• One of the main planks of this Trophy was that it gave the little team a chance to enjoy its day at Wembley. The introduction of Premiership teams can only reduce that opportunity.
• Lower league teams will now have to play more games, but will not be allowed to rotate their squads, even if their pool of players is large enough. This comes against the backdrop of a suggested new five division structure for the Football League, which uses the argument that we are already playing too many games.
While the AFT is not necessarily advocating a boycott of these matches, we have little faith in its current format. There are only so many times you can try and breathe life into a dying entity. If this latest embodiment of the Trophy is not successful, perhaps it is time to let it wither on the vine?

Do you mean Premier League teams or do you mean Premiership as in Celtic and Rangers?

It's obvious what he meant and you're being needlessly pedantic once again.

 

[Lundan Cabbie]

Maybe I was...... the important bit though is that "it is their intention." I've not seen that officially anywhere. It is a bit scare mongering and a lot of two plus two makes five.

It would be interesting to know whether bringing in academy sides was a EFL idea or was it a PL suggestion, a third of whom weren't actually interested.

 

[gaspargomez]

If fans don't turn up to these games, then eventually the "suits" in the FA might get the message. The competition could end up losing clubs money. We don't like the product on offer so we are not buying it. How patronising to think that we can excited by playing other clubs reserve teams.

If Premier league reserve teams were to enter the football league then I can no longer support football in this country.

 

[Liam Vercoe]

I see Portsmouth have made 11 changes to their team for their game tonight. Well done to them I say.

 

[SWTT]

Maybe I was...... the important bit though is that "it is their intention." I've not seen that officially anywhere. It is a bit scare mongering and a lot of two plus two makes five.

It would be interesting to know whether bringing in academy sides was a EFL idea or was it a PL suggestion, a third of whom weren't actually interested.

The football league Chiefs such as Harvey want to push for the 5 divisions of 20 with League Three being introduced to merge B teams. The idea is that it eases fixture congestion, yet instead the adding of a group stage only puts further strain on the fixture list. It makes that 20 team fixture list look a bit better dunnit? Funny that.

A third of invite Prem teams didn't take up the offer of 3 games for their inflated academies, but do you think those same teams would reject a genuine B team? Jog on Lundan. You're in a cosy place with your club, good for you, but sod off trying to convince us that we should bow to your academy squad.

 

[MarkMatthews]

Changed my mind a real tough decision for me, what's helped change my mind are the two local games on tonight Torpoint or Tavistock most probably go to watch Tavy v Tiverton.

I can't be such any Argyle fan as I thought.

Its a shame we don't have Parkway, Tavy or Torpoint away in the SWPL tonight. Would have been good to see more people turn up to watch our academy boys than the first team!

 

[cheshiregreen]

Blackpool v Cheltenham and the boycotts. (2 in their case)

https://twitter.com/FyldeFootball/statu ... 0771075072

Edit - crowd reported as 760.

 

[green eyed monster]

If fans don't turn up to these games, then eventually the "suits" in the FA might get the message. The competition could end up losing clubs money. We don't like the product on offer so we are not buying it. How patronising to think that we can excited by playing other clubs reserve teams.

If Premier league reserve teams were to enter the football league then I can no longer support football in this country.

How patronising to think you speak for everyone

 

[cheshiregreen]

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