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not content with being the only thing to ruin this World Cup VAR just had to wreck the final. Great going. And. Before anyone tries to defend it the ref never would’ve given it had VAR not been there. Potentially just ****ed up the biggest game on earth.

VAR hasn’t f**ked anything up. VAR is a tool for the referee to use, if the referee get’s it wrong after having a second chance to have a good look at the incident, that is the ref’s fault, not the technology. If the ref blows the whistle for an incorrect decision, do you blame the whistle?
Er if you’d bother reading what I’d written you’d see that if VAR didn’t exist in this World Cup then it wouldn’t give idiotic refs the opportunity to balls things up. VAR is dog**** it’s totally ruined what has otherwise been an excellent World Cup.
 
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Outrageous penalty decision
Outrageous dive from Griesman for the free kick for the first one too.

If VAR (which I support the principle of) can say the ref made a "clear and obvious" mistake not spotting what was a dubious handball (it has to be clearly deliberate, and it wasn't) then it should also be able to review the circumstances of the first goal too.

Come on Hravatska, don't let the cheating French steal this.
 
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GreenThing":3fcyiwrf said:
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not content with being the only thing to ruin this World Cup VAR just had to wreck the final. Great going. And. Before anyone tries to defend it the ref never would’ve given it had VAR not been there. Potentially just ****ed up the biggest game on earth.

VAR hasn’t f**ked anything up. VAR is a tool for the referee to use, if the referee get’s it wrong after having a second chance to have a good look at the incident, that is the ref’s fault, not the technology. If the ref blows the whistle for an incorrect decision, do you blame the whistle?
Er if you’d bother reading what I’d written you’d see that if VAR didn’t exist in this World Cup then it wouldn’t give idiotic refs the opportunity to balls things up. VAR is dog**** it’s totally ruined what has otherwise been an excellent World Cup.
wasn’t the precise reason for VAR to stop rubbish refs making rubbish descisions ? Well it hasn’t, it’s been a massive failure.
 
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Some things do look deliberate in slow motion and that has been a recurring problem. As soon as I saw the ref's view here I knew he'd give a pen. It's an obvious flaw in the system.
 

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with-menace":2ymi0vpr said:
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not content with being the only thing to ruin this World Cup VAR just had to wreck the final. Great going. And. Before anyone tries to defend it the ref never would’ve given it had VAR not been there. Potentially just ****ed up the biggest game on earth.

VAR hasn’t f**ked anything up. VAR is a tool for the referee to use, if the referee get’s it wrong after having a second chance to have a good look at the incident, that is the ref’s fault, not the technology. If the ref blows the whistle for an incorrect decision, do you blame the whistle?
Er if you’d bother reading what I’d written you’d see that if VAR didn’t exist in this World Cup then it wouldn’t give idiotic refs the opportunity to balls things up. VAR is dog**** it’s totally ruined what has otherwise been an excellent World Cup.

VAR allows ref’s to have a proper look at something that they might have missed. If the ref still gets it wrong, that is the ref’s fault, not VAR.
 

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not content with being the only thing to ruin this World Cup VAR just had to wreck the final. Great going. And. Before anyone tries to defend it the ref never would’ve given it had VAR not been there. Potentially just ****ed up the biggest game on earth.

VAR hasn’t f**ked anything up. VAR is a tool for the referee to use, if the referee get’s it wrong after having a second chance to have a good look at the incident, that is the ref’s fault, not the technology. If the ref blows the whistle for an incorrect decision, do you blame the whistle?
Er if you’d bother reading what I’d written you’d see that if VAR didn’t exist in this World Cup then it wouldn’t give idiotic refs the opportunity to balls things up. VAR is dog**** it’s totally ruined what has otherwise been an excellent World Cup.

VAR allows ref’s to have a proper look at something that they might have missed. If the ref still gets it wrong, that is the ref’s fault, not VAR.
VAR has been the cause of overturning correct descisions that previously would not have been. It is 100% because of the existence of VAR. It had failed completely in correcting wrong descisions regardless if it’s human error, all it does is refer it to a team who interprets it without any consistency if indeed they decide to refer it at all or it refers bizarre random events with no consistency . It hasn’t worked it’s been a massive failure, I don’t care who’s ‘fault’ it is the simple fact is it’s nonsense.
 

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Another tremendous tackle by Vida; what a tremendous WC he’s having! To a man Croatia are far better & more entertaining! The better team is, unfortunately, not ( yet) winning this.
 

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Another tremendous tackle by Vida; what a tremendous WC he’s having! To a man Croatia are far better & more entertaining! The better team is, unfortunately, not ( yet) winning this.

Would you like to swap?
 

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HaHa! :D Doc. I do feel sickened for Croatia. I’m enjoying tremendously the entertainment value of this fabulous World Cup Final, which ( despite the now even crazier shoreline) is mainly thanks to Croatia
 

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with-menace":24q4nhs4 said:
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not content with being the only thing to ruin this World Cup VAR just had to wreck the final. Great going. And. Before anyone tries to defend it the ref never would’ve given it had VAR not been there. Potentially just ****ed up the biggest game on earth.

VAR hasn’t f**ked anything up. VAR is a tool for the referee to use, if the referee get’s it wrong after having a second chance to have a good look at the incident, that is the ref’s fault, not the technology. If the ref blows the whistle for an incorrect decision, do you blame the whistle?
Er if you’d bother reading what I’d written you’d see that if VAR didn’t exist in this World Cup then it wouldn’t give idiotic refs the opportunity to balls things up. VAR is dog**** it’s totally ruined what has otherwise been an excellent World Cup.

VAR allows ref’s to have a proper look at something that they might have missed. If the ref still gets it wrong, that is the ref’s fault, not VAR.
VAR has been the cause of overturning correct descisions that previously would not have been. It is 100% because of the existence of VAR. It had failed completely in correcting wrong descisions regardless if it’s human error, all it does is refer it to a team who interprets it without any consistency if indeed they decide to refer it at all or it refers bizarre random events with no consistency . It hasn’t worked it’s been a massive failure, I don’t care who’s ‘fault’ it is the simple fact is it’s nonsense.

VAR has also corrected incorrect decisions. I have a feeling that the majority of VAR decisions have overturned incorrect decisions or confirmed a correct decision. If that’s the cast then it can be considered a success.