Persistent Standing Policy

[jimsing]

Just to stoke up the fire a bit....
I was at Anfield tonight...(good game)
All people in the kop and all the 5000 Arsenal fans in the Anfield Rd end were stood up throughout the match. I saw no stewards asking them to sit down...

They weren't preparing to ask for a safety certificate for their ground in the near future!!!!!!!

 

[liverpoolgreen]

Liverpool did get a new safety certificate recently (i guess) for the new main stand that opened last year....and as i recall, the Kop and away fans have always been standing.

I do prefer siting myself, but im agreeing that the application of the policy seems inconsistent across the country.

 

[Shankster]

I always stand in the Kop

 

[Jasa]

Just to stoke up the fire a bit....
I was at Anfield tonight...(good game)
All people in the kop and all the 5000 Arsenal fans in the Anfield Rd end were stood up throughout the match. I saw no stewards asking them to sit down...

They weren't preparing to ask for a safety certificate for their ground in the near future!!!!!!!

It never has been and never we be about a Safety Certificate. Quote it as many times as you like, it still won't be true.

As someone already stated, Anfield's state of the art new Grandstand on the side of the pitch had no issues or threats in spite of whole stands not being sat down. Weird really.

 

[Green 1886]

Just to stoke up the fire a bit....
I was at Anfield tonight...(good game)
All people in the kop and all the 5000 Arsenal fans in the Anfield Rd end were stood up throughout the match. I saw no stewards asking them to sit down...

They weren't preparing to ask for a safety certificate for their ground in the near future!!!!!!!

It never has been and never we be about a Safety Certificate. Quote it as many times as you like, it still won't be true.

As someone already stated, Anfield's state of the art new Grandstand on the side of the pitch had no issues or threats in spite of whole stands not being sat down. Weird really.

I agree, people have been fed that as a justifiable reason and taken it as fact.

The phrase "being urinated on and told it's raining" springs to mind

 

[Shankster]

Standing, in itself has never been the entire issue. If you allocate a seat and issue tickets for the seat (numbers thereof) you control the numbers in the specific area/s, there are a number of permutations to this obviously. Anfield isn’t a particularly good example because the seats are shocking in the Annie Rd, Kemlyn (Centenary) and Kop, shocking leg room and terrible seats.

The best example of safe standing is The Jungle at Celtic Park, that’s an absolutely superb, purpose made standing area and the atmosphere is astonishing and very safe

 

[Kentishgreen]

The fact is they’ve had us penned in or sat down for over 30 years now and nothing much has changed or is likely to. A lot of people have got used to a nice comfy seat, some don’t know anything different. Unless you get the vast majority to stand, then simply standing in a L2 ground is going to achieve the square root of eff all. I know writing letters and organising marches or stand-ins are boring but as far as the authorities are concerned if the majority don’t care why should they do anything? And that’s what they’ll hide behind. A few hundred people standing at L2 fixtures isn’t going to influence anybody and if those who want to stand and do so, irrespective of the effect on others, then you might find the others will argue vociferously against any standing. And I don’t think Liverpool are governed by EFL regulations.

 

[IJN]

I always stand in the Kop

When you think about it there’s an irony to that comment.

The Hillsborough disaster made the government look at football stadia as a whole and they (the suits) decided that all seater was the answer.

Now we have a situation where most of the Kop at Anfield stand, or at least that’s what it looks like, yet a ground forty odd miles away from the biggest terrace in England has to sit down to watch a game.

Buggered if I know the answer but it does seem very strange.

 

[Shankster]

I always stand in the Kop

When you think about it there’s an irony to that comment.

The Hillsborough disaster made the government look at football stadia as a whole and they (the suits) decided that all seater was the answer.

Now we have a situation where most of the Kop at Anfield stand, or at least that’s what it looks like, yet a ground forty odd miles away from the biggest terrace in England has to sit down to watch a game.

Buggered if I know the answer but it does seem very strange.

Standing wasn’t what caused the unlawful killing of football fans in 1989

There’s a huge difference between controlled stewardship, penned (caged) areas and standing up.
All seater stadia was a ‘part’ of the requirements of the Taylor report, not the main requirement.

I never stand where I choose to the detriment of anybody, I stand behind my seat and I only do that if I am not doing so so as to impinge upon anybody else’s pleasure, safety or comfort. Because I’m a reasonable adult (generally)

 

[Balham Green]

I always stand in the Kop

When you think about it there’s an irony to that comment.

The Hillsborough disaster made the government look at football stadia as a whole and they (the suits) decided that all seater was the answer.

Now we have a situation where most of the Kop at Anfield stand, or at least that’s what it looks like, yet a ground forty odd miles away from the biggest terrace in England has to sit down to watch a game.

Buggered if I know the answer but it does seem very strange.

Standing wasn’t what caused the unlawful killing of football fans in 1989

There’s a huge difference between controlled stewardship, penned (caged) areas and standing up.
All seater stadia was a ‘part’ of the requirements of the Taylor report, not the main requirement.

I never stand where I choose to the detriment of anybody, I stand behind my seat and I only do that if I am not doing so so as to impinge upon anybody else’s pleasure, safety or comfort. Because I’m a reasonable adult (generally)

Last sentence :funny:

 

[Shankster]

Indeed

 

[The Doctor]

I’m watching Everton v Spurs on TV and there was just a stadium announcement reminding fans that persistent standing is not allowed...

 

[Green 1886]

I’m watching Everton v Spurs on TV and there was just a stadium announcement reminding fans that persistent standing is not allowed...

Everton have trotted a pre-recorded stadium announcement about standing for years. Usually gets met with either a chorus of boos or fans chanting over the top of it. Used to be aimed more specifically at the away end. I was there probably 6 or 7 years ago (Everton v Chelsea) and remember it being piped out then.