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JannerinCardiff":2s739ncd said:
Our Wembley appearances show there's 15,000 - 25,000 ish who currently cant be arsed. Nobody blames the Fanbase for our current level of crapness, that's generally outside of their control. For those that can remember, our last stint in the Championship was initially well supported by our standards, but, once the novelty wore off and the realisation that we were no longer one of the big fish had set in, people dissapeared.
One of the things Argyle Fans get off on is the fact we take large numbers to the smaller Clubs, being well supported Home and away compared to the Burtons, Cities and AFC Wimbledons of the World is great because we can laud it over the minnows. The journey up is better than the destination, I remember the post prior to getting back into the Championship warning us to enjoy it because that was 'as good as it gets' , the guy said how we would then be the new boys trying to swim in a very much deeper pond and our little 'Big Club' would suddenly seem less overwhelming to just about everyone else. Once that realisation set in, as was said, the novelty wore off.
No doubt a prolonged stint in the Championship and toe dipping into the Premier would generate the next batch of younger diehards, but it needs to happen in the next few years or there's going to be some serious cash flow issues.
On the issue of Sunderland, if the Home support can turn up in increased numbers for this Seasons novelty act despite us being so bad, why not turn up for the other blood and snotters games, when genuine vocal, heart felt support probably will make a difference ?
We are a lower division club who gets pretty good but not spectacular attendances for our position. Like most clubs, get to the Premier League and we will attract 30,000 for every game and some of those will subsequently stay when we get relegated although over the years gradually drift away. That is it, bog standard I am afraid.
It always annoys me when people sneer at supporters for picking and choosing which games to go to. If you only get a few Saturdays off work a year, or don't have the spare cash for a season ticket, are you going to pick Sunderland or Fleetwood for your precious home game? It's a nonsense argument. We'd all go to every game if we could, but plenty of long-standing, committed, "proper" Argyle fans can't for one reason or another. You'd be daft not to choose a game where there will be loads of away fans and a team that used to be in the top-flight until recently.
As for the argument that 15,000 supporters have "disappeared" since Wembley - I'd suggest that most of them haven't. They just all pick the 2/5/10/15/whatever games they can get to each season. Of course they'll move heaven and earth to get to Wembley, but sometimes real life comes before a home game against Gillingham on a Tuesday in November.
As for the argument that 15,000 supporters have "disappeared" since Wembley - I'd suggest that most of them haven't. They just all pick the 2/5/10/15/whatever games they can get to each season. Of course they'll move heaven and earth to get to Wembley, but sometimes real life comes before a home game against Gillingham on a Tuesday in November.
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To be fair watching parkway on a Saturday is more entertaining than Argyle right now. Arguably better quality on show too.
You can’t blame people for giving a home game a miss right now. It’s a chore putting yourself through that every home game.
You can’t blame people for giving a home game a miss right now. It’s a chore putting yourself through that every home game.
Quintrell_Green":5mep3wvj said:
Maybe she thinks I'm going?
(I'm not because I'm a good boy tbh!)
We'll see I'm up country with Private Pogle and the little Poglettes so it depends when I get back. I'm not driving like a maniac to see us get well turned over!! :facepalm:
I'm sorry but all this 'good supporters go to every game' 'good supporters just support the team whatever' was fine for my first 40 odd years watching Argyle but I'm in my 54th season of attending now and the 'loyalty' just gets harder as you get older and tireder (is that a word?)
You might not like it, deride me all you like, but I have always been a 'good supporter'.
I remember a conversation with Dan Macauley where he mentioned his 'investment', I said well great but, over the years, I've probably put in a higher proportion of my income/savings then you ever will of yours and … I'll never get any back!! :lol:
Bermudian Green":3m22ykmq said:
Go on then BG ….. you need to hit us with the punchline!! Babababoom, I'm here all week! :lol:
The 30k we can attract at Wembley includes the exiled support who go to support the team in all reaches of the UK and for the prime games from even the other side of the world.
Our average at the moment is above the gates of the eighties and early nineties as we progressed up and down the leagues at various times.
Our average at the moment is above the gates of the eighties and early nineties as we progressed up and down the leagues at various times.
PAFC Norfolk":2vfzo6sl said:
And it would have included a significant number of people who have no interest at all in Argyle and went along with their mate for a day in the capital. I know at least 5 people who had never seen us before and won’t ever again (until we play at Wembley again maybe).
Guiri Green":1kt8xjht said:
The impressionable few on whom guilt trip marketing will work are no doubt already there, GG.
Not sure how hearts might genuinely long for more Adams football though, were the impossible to occur and more folk turn up willingly to suffer the lesser games.