Mike Ferguson is the name you are looking for. And just to keep the Argyle link going, Accrington's final game in 61-62 was v Crewe and Frank Lord scored a hat trick for the Railwaymen.Bovey-Green lady":66lbj5um said:
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There are also a handful of clubs pre 1958 who have played in 6 different Football League divisions. One, Two, Three, Four, Three (North) and Three (South). When it came to relegation from Div Two if there were two southern based clubs they would both go into 3rd South and the most northerly club in the southern section would be shunted across. Coventry and Notts Co are two I can think of. Shrewsbury too have played in both. Notts Co have now played in a seventh!Southampton Hake":29kvt70w said:
Forest that should be plus Coventry, Shrewsbury, Mansfield, Walsall and Port Vale.memory man":pg2l9x7v said:
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Following on from that who scored Accies first 2 goals back in the football league ?
He later played for Argyle. I remember him playing for A.S. at Aldershot Town in League 2. Stocky guy called Rocco or something similar.
Following on from that who scored Accies first 2 goals back in the football league ?
He later played for Argyle. I remember him playing for A.S. at Aldershot Town in League 2. Stocky guy called Rocco or something similar.
Going back to the subject how things used to be, am I allowed to have a rant about modern day journalese and football language.
Why do managers have to be a ‘gaffer’. To my generation that reeks of forelock tugging and class distinction, which is all very irritating.
Why does every single deflection have to be ‘wicked’?
Who invented ‘early doors’? Stupid saying.
Why are all passes to wing players ‘up the channels’?
I could go on, but rant over. I feel better for that.
Why do managers have to be a ‘gaffer’. To my generation that reeks of forelock tugging and class distinction, which is all very irritating.
Why does every single deflection have to be ‘wicked’?
Who invented ‘early doors’? Stupid saying.
Why are all passes to wing players ‘up the channels’?
I could go on, but rant over. I feel better for that.
I get angry when the commentators and pundits say "Putting his body on the line" - that's what servicemen and front line workers do.mervyn":1zj0me19 said:
'Back stick' shorthand for far post but 2 letters longer! :facepalm:
I blame Big Ron for that one.
I blame Big Ron for that one.
Richard Davis told me of his shock when Mike said he was leaving, thinking he wouldn't be allowed to leave. But the difference between ground staff and apprentice was that the ground staff were on a week to week ordinary employment arrangement, and not a contract. He did very well in the game after Accringtion and was quite an important part of Terry Venables management team, especially for England.Bovey-Green lady":37knrh73 said:
The one that I struggle with these days is the inside left who plays just behind the centre forward is a No.10 but the right sided equivalent is never called a No.8.
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You and me both,Lundan Cabbie! I still think in terms of a right back, or a centre half/forward. If I can watch the game, it's not so bad as I can translate what I am seeing in front of me, into the "old" terminology.Lundan Cabbie":yu66kz0e said:
I have had too many years of pre, half time and post match analysis from the experts on the box and restrict my watching to the action. The current crop of commentators so often fail to identify who has the ball and the drivel exchanged between them and the co-commentator is painful.
What really drove me up the wall was the post match interview with the team manager who would suggest each goal his team scored was brilliant attacking football, and every goal conceded was a defensive error.
Having lived through the ages of televised football from virtual zero live matches ( FA Cup final only) to today's saturation point familiarity has probably bred contempt.
What really drove me up the wall was the post match interview with the team manager who would suggest each goal his team scored was brilliant attacking football, and every goal conceded was a defensive error.
Having lived through the ages of televised football from virtual zero live matches ( FA Cup final only) to today's saturation point familiarity has probably bred contempt.
Southampton Hake":8ug127ns said:
Couldn't agree more... I've never understood why a co-commentator is needed, they often talk such rubbish, or what John Cleese used to call 'the bleeding' obvious'. Barry Davies, John Motson, David Coleman, Brian Moore etc never needed a co-commentator and they always knew all the players' names.
In the past week or so I watched one match where the commentator barely mentioned a single players name until a goal went in, and spent most of the match engaged in banal chat with his female co-commentator. And in another match, the co-commentator said 'You have to be disciplined and keep your shape when you come to a stadium like this one...' ??? WTF!!! Surely you have to do that if you play at Wembley or the local park!!!
And I wish sports journalists would think of something interesting to ask a that doesn't have a limited range of answers. For example... 'You must be pleased.. how pleased are you?' (A bit, a lot, very, not at all, extremely.... delete as appropriate!)
Rant over.. sometimes better to watch football with the volume off...