Wigan v Argyle match thread

[Emu]

I’d go a bit further than he’s a good player, Oldage, I’d say he’s an exceptional player. But you’re right in that all the trickery and defence beating runs come to nothing. He needs to apply his skills to what’s in front of him and complete that killer pass instead of holding on to it until the opposition get into position and remove the advantage he’s created.

Nail. Head. :thumbs:

 

[jimsing]

The players around him have to give him the opportunity to make that killer pass.

He didn't have that problem when he played for Bury, with the strikers they had.

 

[Balham Green]

I’d go a bit further than he’s a good player, Oldage, I’d say he’s an exceptional player. But you’re right in that all the trickery and defence beating runs come to nothing. He needs to apply his skills to what’s in front of him and complete that killer pass instead of holding on to it until the opposition get into position and remove the advantage he’s created.

'exceptional player' nonsense. I am losing patience with him especially after missing that sitter yesterday. An exceptional player in his role(i.e attacking!) scores goals and provides assists. Worrying that our most creative player does neither. He' s one of our better players but definitely not exceptional. Must be one the most over-rated players ever.

 

[GreenThing]

It’s not nonsense just because you don’t agree.

 

[djg145]

Interesting looking at the table, FIVE of the 8 Clubs above us have fairly recent history in the Premier League.

 

[Balham Green]

It’s not nonsense just because you don’t agree.

Ok its nonsense in my opinion. You can't disagree with lack of goals or assists. How does that work out for an 'exceptional' player?'.

 

[HC Green]

Interesting looking at the table, FIVE of the 8 Clubs above us have fairly recent history in the Premier League.

I think saying Charlton and Portsmouth have fairly recent history in the Premier League is pushing the term recent just a bit.

 

[GreenThing]

It’s not nonsense just because you don’t agree.

Ok its nonsense in my opinion. You can't disagree with lack of goals or assists. How does that work out for an 'exceptional' player?'.

Read the post, it’s not that difficult to understand. Mayor is an exceptional player who for some reason is underperforming. In my opinion.

 

[demportdave]

I’d go a bit further than he’s a good player, Oldage, I’d say he’s an exceptional player. But you’re right in that all the trickery and defence beating runs come to nothing. He needs to apply his skills to what’s in front of him and complete that killer pass instead of holding on to it until the opposition get into position and remove the advantage he’s created.

'exceptional player' nonsense. I am losing patience with him especially after missing that sitter yesterday. An exceptional player in his role(i.e attacking!) scores goals and provides assists. Worrying that our most creative player does neither. He' s one of our better players but definitely not exceptional. Must be one the most over-rated players ever.

I have all but given up hope of Mayor being the player we all thought he was going to be, I think he is the footballing equivalent of the Emperor's new clothes. Yesterday was the perfect opportunity for Mayor to showcase his supposed creative ability in an Argyle win but once again, he failed to produce the goods. He should have been a big part in us winning a game like yesterday's against very poor opposition but he wasn't up to the job.

He has played every minute of every League game this season but as well as not scoring himself, he is yet to provide an assist either.

This is not a blip, he only scored 1 League goal last season and ended up with more yellow cards than assists, and that was in an attack-minded, promotion winning team. Compare that to the contribution of Cooper who provided more goals and more assists in far less playing time and playing mostly as a wing- back.

Mayor looks so good when he picks up the ball in the centre circle and glides past a couple of players but all too often, there is no end product. The skill and composure on the halfway line is sadly lacking in and around the box, as we saw again yesterday with the great chance late on which he blasted against the first defender instead of guiding it in to the corner of the net in the way you would expect of a player with his supposed quality. Then there's his delivery from corners, abysmal.

The one thing that Mayor does do is to remind me of just how good and effective Carey was for Argyle.

 

[Bristol Rich]

Interesting looking at the table, FIVE of the 8 Clubs above us have fairly recent history in the Premier League.

I think saying Charlton and Portsmouth have fairly recent history in the Premier League is pushing the term recent just a bit.

Completely correct, Wigan being on the Premiership when they were being bankrolled by Dave Whelan had no bearing on yesterday's game.

The same logic applies when we apply with Swindon and Oldham.

I think Accrington won the FA Cup once, is that relevant when we play them?

 

[Fergy]

I agree with the comments in relation to Mayor to an extent but he is still head and shoulders above anybody else in our squad. We would be really toothless without his creativity.

 

[Cobi Budge]

I agree with the comments in relation to Mayor to an extent but he is still head and shoulders above anybody else in our squad. We would be really toothless without his creativity.

This. He's frustrating but we'd still be much weaker without him.

 

[oldage]

I agree with the comments in relation to Mayor to an extent but he is still head and shoulders above anybody else in our squad. We would be really toothless without his creativity.

We are toothless with his so called creativity. I notice RL hasn't even mentioned the abysmal second half showing in his post match report. Unbelievable!

 

[Cobi Budge]

I agree with the comments in relation to Mayor to an extent but he is still head and shoulders above anybody else in our squad. We would be really toothless without his creativity.

We are toothless with his so called creativity. I notice RL hasn't even mentioned the abysmal second half showing in his post match report. Unbelievable!

An honest question Oldage, do you want Ryan Lowe to be the manager of Plymouth Argyle? Because I'm not sure I've ever seen you post something positive about the man who got us promoted at the first time of asking last season and who has secured a solid start to life in League 1.

 

[demportdave]

I agree with the comments in relation to Mayor to an extent but he is still head and shoulders above anybody else in our squad. We would be really toothless without his creativity.

We are toothless with his so called creativity. I notice RL hasn't even mentioned the abysmal second half showing in his post match report. Unbelievable!

I watched the full post-match interview and in fairness to Lowe, he was clearly frustrated that we hadn't won the game and he was critical of the players, including Mayor, for their lack of compusure and quality in front of goal.

Compared to the utter rubbish that we heard recently from the vastly over-rated Gareth Southgate, gushing in his praise for the England players after another boring, negative performance against Denmark, I thought Lowe's comments were pretty honest and realistic.