samjones":f02pmxdq said:
We have the best away record in the division Sam, maybe it is our opponents who need to be worried in those 6 games.
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We have the best away record in the division Sam, maybe it is our opponents who need to be worried in those 6 games.
PlymOdi":1gvr6dc7 said:
Our ONLY away draw of the season.
We've had 10 away wins though.
Are you capable of looking at the bigger picture? Or is it just about throwing the toys out of your pram because you expect Argyle to win every game and have the league sewn up by Easter?
We didn't even lose this game either...
Knibbsworth":1d1imick said:
I think you talk sense. Yet it's hard to argue against the stats.
The problem is that since Dave Jones took over Hartlepool' previous results are..
3-0 to Luton, 4-0 to Mansfield, 1-1 against Yeovil, and 3-1 to Newport <<<<<< going back to 28th of December and his first game.....
Leyton Orient results have been just as bad over the same period
From 28th December >>>> 2-0 to Mansfield, 2-1 to Leyton Orient, 1-0 to Morecambe, 1-1 against Yeovil and 3-2 to Notts County today
samjones":3tlm5ue7 said:
PROMOTION teams win more games than others and generally have more points than those below them, sometimes the opposition can be bottom, middle or even one of the top teams.
How can a team be uninspiring and unconvincing yet remain in the top 3 of the table for the bulk of the season ?
Guiri Green":1n1w87sy said:
Your last line is a good question? Yet this is not something new. We have churned out these performances a number of times this season. You only have to look at many brief synopsis over the course of the season to find the remarks are consistent similar. We didn't play well, but we got the points.
So 31 games in suggest it's not luck. Yet there is a problem. You don't keep playing poorly and people remarking about it the number of times we have this season.
Knibbsworth":3jklm6h9 said:
I'm seeing the bigger picture.
Look at March, Get 6 from the last two games, and March has a lot less pressure. Now it has a lot more.
These should have been won, no excuses. The teams we played were poor, and we weren't good enough to win when we came up against the fight. This happened last season too & now we're still in league 23, or is that out of scope of the picture?
Metal_Green_Mickey":1h8h7i6a said:
The thing is, it doesn't really matter MGM. I know you are a bit glass half empty about us this season, and in truth it might not be a vintage season performance wise, but the table states that we are still one of the best sides in the league.
If there is a a 'problem' about us being 2nd in the league with a nice points cushion, then I'll happily take that thanks.
The table doesn't lie and after 31 games we are definitely one of the best 2 or 3 teams and one of the favourites for automatic promotion.
Yet some of us are still not convinced that we have got what it takes to see it through over 46 games.
Last week we beat a team who were flying on the back of 7 straight wins during which time they had scored 20-odd goals and only conceded a few. Just before Christmas and after we had experienced a bit of a wobble, we beat top of the table Doncaster who had just won 4 games in a row and had not failed to score in any game prior to that one.
Yet we play the likes of Yeovil and they get their only win in what is now getting on for 3 months. We lose to Orient to give them their first win in 8 and we struggled again today against a team near the bottom of the table who had just been soundly beaten by 2 of our promotion rivals. In most of the games we win, we are hanging on to 1-goal leads for long periods and don't look very convincing or like a team who are flying high in the League.
Adams brought in some good signings in January and when they are all fit, we have a pretty strong squad; yet we still don't have a proven goal scorer, the man who will turn our dominance in matches into points. Adams has said yet again today that we should have scored 3 or 4, as he has so many times this season. Against that, we often look likely to concede a soft goal against the run of play and find ourselves chasing a game where we had been on top but could not score the vital first goal.
People were concerned about Bradley being available today and he is a very important player but the big miss was Sarcevic. In the few games he has played so far, not only has he looked like a creative midfielder but he has also shown the ability and the desire to get in the box and get on the end of things. Both his goals were scored from no more that 6 or 7 yards out and we haven't had a midfielder who could do that since Friio.
In close games, that inability to take our chances may cost us big time come the end of the season; let's hope it doesn't.
But the inability to beat mid and lower-table teams is the reason why some us remain doubtful.
Yet some of us are still not convinced that we have got what it takes to see it through over 46 games.
Last week we beat a team who were flying on the back of 7 straight wins during which time they had scored 20-odd goals and only conceded a few. Just before Christmas and after we had experienced a bit of a wobble, we beat top of the table Doncaster who had just won 4 games in a row and had not failed to score in any game prior to that one.
Yet we play the likes of Yeovil and they get their only win in what is now getting on for 3 months. We lose to Orient to give them their first win in 8 and we struggled again today against a team near the bottom of the table who had just been soundly beaten by 2 of our promotion rivals. In most of the games we win, we are hanging on to 1-goal leads for long periods and don't look very convincing or like a team who are flying high in the League.
Adams brought in some good signings in January and when they are all fit, we have a pretty strong squad; yet we still don't have a proven goal scorer, the man who will turn our dominance in matches into points. Adams has said yet again today that we should have scored 3 or 4, as he has so many times this season. Against that, we often look likely to concede a soft goal against the run of play and find ourselves chasing a game where we had been on top but could not score the vital first goal.
People were concerned about Bradley being available today and he is a very important player but the big miss was Sarcevic. In the few games he has played so far, not only has he looked like a creative midfielder but he has also shown the ability and the desire to get in the box and get on the end of things. Both his goals were scored from no more that 6 or 7 yards out and we haven't had a midfielder who could do that since Friio.
In close games, that inability to take our chances may cost us big time come the end of the season; let's hope it doesn't.
But the inability to beat mid and lower-table teams is the reason why some us remain doubtful.
Emu":3rjumya3 said:
And don't you think l will too Emu? This is not about NOT wanting Argyle to get promotion.
PlymOdi":2t4yhwen said:
Hardly any of this season's team was involved last year. Those that have stayed, the likes of Sawyer, McCormick and Jervis can hardly be blamed for last year.
Unless you attribute last season's drop to Adams? But I agree with DA when he said that not many supporters would have done things much differently to how he did it last season. The team had no depth, no rotations options, and the side virtually picked itself. No one was calling for Houghton instead of Hartley for example. The lads were exhausted towards the end of the season - a lot of them had played 40-50 matches.
So yes, I think you are narrowing your scope too far to suggest we will collapse based on 12 months ago, this season is different entirely.
Back to the point in hand, the highlights showed we created some good chances against Hartlepool, we lacked a clinical edge but we still come back with an away point. We were the better side.
It's not time to run around predicting a collapse of the season and putting pressure on the manager. We got complacent against Orient perhaps but will learn quickly from that never to take a lead for granted.
Doncaster haven't won in four matches, they might have reason to worry about form collapse a bit more than us.
Only getting 1 point from the games against Orient and Hartlepool is a bit of a concern, but other teams are also dropping points.
Before the end of March we have 4 very tough looking away games as well as 3 home games in a row, including one against Carlisle. It's anyone's guess as to how many points we will pick up in that particular run of games.
However, we will certainly have a much clearer idea of how our season is going to pan out after the game at Doncaster on Sunday, March 26.
Before the end of March we have 4 very tough looking away games as well as 3 home games in a row, including one against Carlisle. It's anyone's guess as to how many points we will pick up in that particular run of games.
However, we will certainly have a much clearer idea of how our season is going to pan out after the game at Doncaster on Sunday, March 26.
Wow, win our game in hand and we are joint top of the league. People still finding fault. FFS this place was more joyful when we were scraping the bottom of the league!!
This league is strange, anyone can beat anyone so regardless of positions/who beat them last week/how many they conceded there is no real rhyme nor reason to results. I couldn't care less if we beat Exeter (which people thought we would lose) and lose to Orient (where people thought we were dead certs for a win), better than vice versa. Provided we win games it shouldn't matter who against.
This league is strange, anyone can beat anyone so regardless of positions/who beat them last week/how many they conceded there is no real rhyme nor reason to results. I couldn't care less if we beat Exeter (which people thought we would lose) and lose to Orient (where people thought we were dead certs for a win), better than vice versa. Provided we win games it shouldn't matter who against.