New Grandstand - 2 day public consultation

[Coopertupac]

Yes let's bite the hand that feeds us especially such an owner who has shown his worth over the years glad he doesn't let the negative get to him

 

[Tugboat]

Yes let's bite the hand that feeds us especially such an owner who has shown his worth over the years glad he doesn't let the negative get to him

There's more to it than just that.

People are questioning the real motives and medium impact of future development issues within the club and surrounding lands.

Freedom of speech and ability to ask questions should be welcomed not shot down instantly because some can see no wrong through the ultra green tinted glasses.

It's all about seeing the bigger picture now and in the future. What's done is done with regards to JB saving the club and I don't think there is 1 person who isn't grateful for that but that alone shouldn't deter people from asking questions on things they see as possible issues.

 

[metroace]

Yes let's bite the hand that feeds us especially such an owner who has shown his worth over the years glad he doesn't let the negative get to him

There's more to it than just that.

People are questioning the real motives and medium impact of future development issues within the club and surrounding lands.

Freedom of speech and ability to ask questions should be welcomed not shot down instantly because some can see no wrong through the ultra green tinted glasses.

It's all about seeing the bigger picture now and in the future. What's done is done with regards to JB saving the club and I don't think there is 1 person who isn't grateful for that but that alone shouldn't deter people from asking questions on things they see as possible issues.

I sometimes wonder if Argyle fans deserve to still have a club or if it shouldn't have just died all those years ago. Then I remember that the people who constantly snipe are in the minority. Brent is the owner, he is a businessman, he will do business. He could also just walk away. Which would you prefer?

 

[The Duke]

Yes let's bite the hand that feeds us especially such an owner who has shown his worth over the years glad he doesn't let the negative get to him

There's more to it than just that.

People are questioning the real motives and medium impact of future development issues within the club and surrounding lands.

Freedom of speech and ability to ask questions should be welcomed not shot down instantly because some can see no wrong through the ultra green tinted glasses.

It's all about seeing the bigger picture now and in the future. What's done is done with regards to JB saving the club and I don't think there is 1 person who isn't grateful for that but that alone shouldn't deter people from asking questions on things they see as possible issues.

I sometimes wonder if Argyle fans deserve to still have a club or if it shouldn't have just died all those years ago. Then I remember that the people who constantly snipe are in the minority. Brent is the owner, he is a businessman, he will do business. He could also just walk away. Which would you prefer?

But he's not going to walk away is he! Look at the plans again.

 

[Tugboat]

Yes let's bite the hand that feeds us especially such an owner who has shown his worth over the years glad he doesn't let the negative get to him

There's more to it than just that.

People are questioning the real motives and medium impact of future development issues within the club and surrounding lands.

Freedom of speech and ability to ask questions should be welcomed not shot down instantly because some can see no wrong through the ultra green tinted glasses.

It's all about seeing the bigger picture now and in the future. What's done is done with regards to JB saving the club and I don't think there is 1 person who isn't grateful for that but that alone shouldn't deter people from asking questions on things they see as possible issues.

I sometimes wonder if Argyle fans deserve to still have a club or if it shouldn't have just died all those years ago. Then I remember that the people who constantly snipe are in the minority. Brent is the owner, he is a businessman, he will do business. He could also just walk away. Which would you prefer?

I think he will walk away once the planning side for non PAFC commercial units are approved.

 

[esmer]

I don't understand the problem with some posters. James Brent is a businessman and would-be property developer and he owns a parcel of land he wants to develop, what on earth is remotely sinister about that. The only issue for us is the effect on the planning application but by now his representatives would have had extensive discussions with PCC planning department so I doubt very much this will be an issue.

 

[Quintrell Green]

Yes let's bite the hand that feeds us especially such an owner who has shown his worth over the years glad he doesn't let the negative get to him

There's more to it than just that.

People are questioning the real motives and medium impact of future development issues within the club and surrounding lands.

Freedom of speech and ability to ask questions should be welcomed not shot down instantly because some can see no wrong through the ultra green tinted glasses.

It's all about seeing the bigger picture now and in the future. What's done is done with regards to JB saving the club and I don't think there is 1 person who isn't grateful for that but that alone shouldn't deter people from asking questions on things they see as possible issues.

I sometimes wonder if Argyle fans deserve to still have a club or if it shouldn't have just died all those years ago. Then I remember that the people who constantly snipe are in the minority. Brent is the owner, he is a businessman, he will do business. He could also just walk away. Which would you prefer?

I think he will walk away once the planning side for non PAFC commercial units are approved.

I for one would be most interested to hear your rationale for thinking that JB will cut and run after Consent has been achieved. Perhaps you could enlighten us all.

 

[cheshiregreen]

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[PL2 3DQ]

The new development with the hotel and restaurants will be ideal for away fans, especially those with families, and exiled Argyle fans coming down for a game.

An overnight stay in the hotel with an evening meal, swimming or ice skating on Saturday morning followed by an Argyle game.

 

[monkeywrench]

The new development with the hotel and restaurants will be ideal for away fans, especially those with families, and exiled Argyle fans coming down for a game.

An overnight stay in the hotel with an evening meal, swimming or ice skating on Saturday morning followed by an Argyle game.

Also works hand in hand with conferencing events Posty

 

[Tugboat]

Yes let's bite the hand that feeds us especially such an owner who has shown his worth over the years glad he doesn't let the negative get to him

There's more to it than just that.

People are questioning the real motives and medium impact of future development issues within the club and surrounding lands.

Freedom of speech and ability to ask questions should be welcomed not shot down instantly because some can see no wrong through the ultra green tinted glasses.

It's all about seeing the bigger picture now and in the future. What's done is done with regards to JB saving the club and I don't think there is 1 person who isn't grateful for that but that alone shouldn't deter people from asking questions on things they see as possible issues.

I sometimes wonder if Argyle fans deserve to still have a club or if it shouldn't have just died all those years ago. Then I remember that the people who constantly snipe are in the minority. Brent is the owner, he is a businessman, he will do business. He could also just walk away. Which would you prefer?

I think he will walk away once the planning side for non PAFC commercial units are approved.

I for one would be most interested to hear your rationale for thinking that JB will cut and run after Consent has been achieved. Perhaps you could enlighten us all.

My opinion. Nothing more.

I think he came in for to take over the club (albeit last resort) at a good deal that required him to actively renegotiate the debt, provide stability and give the club direction again to enable the creditors to settle the finance. Bravo to Brent and well done on the job so far.

I've had doubts on the other side of his dealings. Nothing malicious and probably nothing he is doing or planning can be perceived as wrong BUT I've always maintained that he has bigger plans on what he does best which is developing run down business's turning them into profitable solutions and PAFC is no different. Out of PAFC he now owns the immediate land, the car park and from that has a foot in the door for development on that land and now transpires other land around Central Park becomes part of the original planning of the mayflower redevelopment as an add on. From this original plan of a new grandstand comes a new ice rink, a new hotel, new commercial units and a new opportunity to fulfill his ultimate plan of pulling down the pavilions to make way for a new hotel.

Now SH is onboard I see him as the future landlord of the club with JB parting ways to start his next venture.

 

[The Grumpy Loyal]

So Grumpy Loyal doesn't want to go because an argument won't be productive, then insists he doesn't argue...

If indeed he is pretty mellow in real life, then a grown up conversation with JB at the fans forum will be productive for both him and others with valid concerns, and put to rest any question of him being purely a keyboard warrior.

This is all rather amusing.

Listen, the sort of argument you're putting forward is that all a lifelong Labour supporter should do, is rock up at a Tory convention, listen to what they have to say, and hey presto all of a sudden you're a Tory!

I don't need to go and listen to Brents propaganda. I know precisely what his plans are!

 

[The Duke]

Yes let's bite the hand that feeds us especially such an owner who has shown his worth over the years glad he doesn't let the negative get to him

There's more to it than just that.

People are questioning the real motives and medium impact of future development issues within the club and surrounding lands.

Freedom of speech and ability to ask questions should be welcomed not shot down instantly because some can see no wrong through the ultra green tinted glasses.

It's all about seeing the bigger picture now and in the future. What's done is done with regards to JB saving the club and I don't think there is 1 person who isn't grateful for that but that alone shouldn't deter people from asking questions on things they see as possible issues.

I sometimes wonder if Argyle fans deserve to still have a club or if it shouldn't have just died all those years ago. Then I remember that the people who constantly snipe are in the minority. Brent is the owner, he is a businessman, he will do business. He could also just walk away. Which would you prefer?

I think he will walk away once the planning side for non PAFC commercial units are approved.

I for one would be most interested to hear your rationale for thinking that JB will cut and run after Consent has been achieved. Perhaps you could enlighten us all.

My opinion. Nothing more.

I think he came in for to take over the club (albeit last resort) at a good deal that required him to actively renegotiate the debt, provide stability and give the club direction again to enable the creditors to settle the finance. Bravo to Brent and well done on the job so far.

I've had doubts on the other side of his dealings. Nothing malicious and probably nothing he is doing or planning can be perceived as wrong BUT I've always maintained that he has bigger plans on what he does best which is developing run down business's turning them into profitable solutions and PAFC is no different. Out of PAFC he now owns the immediate land, the car park and from that has a foot in the door for development on that land and now transpires other land around Central Park becomes part of the original planning of the mayflower redevelopment as an add on. From this original plan of a new grandstand comes a new ice rink, a new hotel, new commercial units and a new opportunity to fulfill his ultimate plan of pulling down the pavilions to make way for a new hotel.

Now SH is onboard I see him as the future landlord of the club with JB parting ways to start his next venture.

I agree, SH will be in place. But he has invested his own money into the club, so fair play to him.

 

[Biggs]

So Grumpy Loyal doesn't want to go because an argument won't be productive, then insists he doesn't argue...

If indeed he is pretty mellow in real life, then a grown up conversation with JB at the fans forum will be productive for both him and others with valid concerns, and put to rest any question of him being purely a keyboard warrior.

This is all rather amusing.

Listen, the sort of argument you're putting forward is that all a lifelong Labour supporter should do, is rock up at a Tory convention, listen to what they have to say, and hey presto all of a sudden you're a Tory!

I don't need to go and listen to Brents propaganda. I know precisely what his plans are!

I thought this was a Plymouth Argyle fans forum, and that you were a Plymouth Argyle fan.

If you think it's propaganda, call him out on it. JB isn't there to read out a speech to a bunch of nodding sycophants (if we're using the Tory convention analogy) and bugger off home, it's a forum of discussion that will be broadcast and your views may be picked up on by others.

 

[PlymOdi]

So Grumpy Loyal doesn't want to go because an argument won't be productive, then insists he doesn't argue...

If indeed he is pretty mellow in real life, then a grown up conversation with JB at the fans forum will be productive for both him and others with valid concerns, and put to rest any question of him being purely a keyboard warrior.

This is all rather amusing.

Listen, the sort of argument you're putting forward is that all a lifelong Labour supporter should do, is rock up at a Tory convention, listen to what they have to say, and hey presto all of a sudden you're a Tory!

I don't need to go and listen to Brents propaganda. I know precisely what his plans are!

I thought this was a Plymouth Argyle fans forum, and that you were a Plymouth Argyle fan.

If you think it's propaganda, call him out on it. JB isn't there to read out a speech to a bunch of nodding sycophants (if we're using the Tory convention analogy) and bugger off home, it's a forum of discussion that will be broadcast and your views may be picked up on by others.

Much easier to sit at home and do it away from JB. Facebook is full of this behaviour too. Those with true concerns should want them heard by the right people. Can't see how they wouldn't want that. If they can't do it without reducing it to an argument, pity on them.