Re: Elimination Table and Doc's hashtag thingy

[Bermudian Green]

So that's Hartlepool's automatic promotion dreams dashed then.

 

[Ham Green]

According to my fag-packet maths, Hartlepool can only finish 12th.

What say you, Lundan Cabbie?

 

[The Pilgrim]

According to my fag-packet maths, Hartlepool can only finish 12th.

What say you, Lundan Cabbie?

Does this involve going back in time and only playing 2 points for a win?

 

[Ham Green]

According to my fag-packet maths, Hartlepool can only finish 12th.

What say you, Lundan Cabbie?

Does this involve going back in time and only playing 2 points for a win?

:lol:

No, there's a bit more to it than that.
OG's elimination table is a vast over-simplification. Hartlepool could end up on 60 points, and in the current table that would put them just outside automatic promotion. But the end-of-season table will be very different, there are 108 games and anywhere between 216 and 324 points yet to be handed out, and for Hartlepool to actually finish 4th would require every team above them to achieve an average of zero points per game. This is of course impossible. Much better to assume an average of between 1 and 1.5 points per game.

Of course it would be very difficult to make an absolute statement on where Hartlepool could finish - calculating every possible final table would take far too long, even on the best computers available today. The best we can do is make an estimate.

 

[The Pilgrim]

According to my fag-packet maths, Hartlepool can only finish 12th.

What say you, Lundan Cabbie?

Does this involve going back in time and only playing 2 points for a win?

:lol:

No, there's a bit more to it than that.
OG's elimination table is a vast over-simplification. Hartlepool could end up on 60 points, and in the current table that would put them just outside automatic promotion. But the end-of-season table will be very different, there are 108 games and anywhere between 216 and 324 points yet to be handed out, and for Hartlepool to actually finish 4th would require every team above them to achieve an average of zero points per game. This is of course impossible. Much better to assume an average of between 1 and 1.5 points per game.

Of course it would be very difficult to make an absolute statement on where Hartlepool could finish - calculating every possible final table would take far too long, even on the best computers available today. The best we can do is make an estimate.

:lol: :lol: well in that case I can only apologise!

 

[Ottawa Green]

OG's elimination table is a vast over-simplification

It's the KISS principle.

AO why do you have to complicate things.
The most points Hartlepool can possibly get is 60 points, they already have 27 and 11 games left, 11 X 3 = 33, 33 +27 =60, Burton,Shrewsbury and Wycombe have 64 or more, so the highest they can possibly get is 4th. AO everyone knows that Hartlepool is not going to get 60 points, the Elimination Table is for fun and it's simple.

I LIKE SIMPLE :lol:

 

[Ham Green]

I know OG, I like the elimination table, I'm just a huge maths nerd.

 

[Argy1e]

According to my fag-packet maths, Hartlepool can only finish 12th.

What say you, Lundan Cabbie?

7th is still open to them, i didn't try to get them any higher but they probably could

 

[Euanargyle]

My predicted final table COYG

Pos Team Pld Pts GD
1 Burton Albion 46 92 +25
2 Wycombe Wanderers 46 87 +26
3 Shrewsbury Town 46 86 +30
4 Luton Town 46 80 +19
5 Southend United 46 78 +15
6 Plymouth Argyle 46 72 +19
7 Northampton Town 46 72 +16
8 Bury 46 71 +13
9 Stevenage 46 66 +6
10 AFC Wimbledon 46 63 +7
11 Morecambe 46 62 +3
12 Newport County 46 61 -4
13 Portsmouth 46 59 0
14 Oxford United 46 57 +1
15 Exeter City 46 56 -6
16 Mansfield Town 46 52 -9
17 Dagenham & Redbridge 46 51 -10
18 Accrington Stanley 46 51 -19
19 Tranmere Rovers 46 46 -10
20 Cambridge United 46 45 -6
21 Cheltenham Town 46 43 -23
22 York City 46 42 -14
23 Carlisle United 46 41 -26
24 Hartlepool United 46 33 -41

 

[Ollieargyle9]

According to my fag-packet maths, Hartlepool can only finish 12th.

What say you, Lundan Cabbie?

7th is still open to them, i didn't try to get them any higher but they probably could

I can't wait to see the Sheridan Out thread after we miss out on the playoffs to Hartlepool :greensmile:

 

[The Pilgrim]

According to my fag-packet maths, Hartlepool can only finish 12th.

What say you, Lundan Cabbie?

7th is still open to them, i didn't try to get them any higher but they probably could

I can't wait to see the Sheridan Out thread after we miss out on the playoffs to Hartlepool :greensmile:

Especially with their -32 goal difference!

 

[soccerpilgrim]

According to my fag-packet maths, Hartlepool can only finish 12th.

What say you, Lundan Cabbie?

7th is still open to them, i didn't try to get them any higher but they probably could

Did you enter this manually or is there a website I'm waiting to discover? :think:

 

[Ottawa Green]

Argyle bit of a flaw in your table for Hartlepool

As of today Hartlepool is

35 -32 27

under yours at end of season Hartlepool is

46 -32 60

so you are saying Hartlepool will win all their remaining 11 games yet their goal difference will be exactly the same as it is today :sigh:

As i said earlier KISS just enjoy the ride, why make it complicated.

 

[Argy1e]

Argyle bit of a flaw in your table for Hartlepool

As of today Hartlepool is

35 -32 27

under yours at end of season Hartlepool is

46 -32 60

so you are saying Hartlepool will win all their remaining 11 games yet their goal difference will be exactly the same as it is today :sigh:

As i said earlier KISS just enjoy the ride, why make it complicated.

I prefer your simple version but just wanted to point out that Hartlepool could in theory still finish in the play-offs, the website i used let you choose Home win, Draw or Away win for the remaining fixtures, there was a section to change goal difference too but i just left that blank which is why it was still the same.

Soccerpilgrim the link is http://www.thefishy.co.uk/calculator2.php

 

[Bermudian Green]

I know OG, I like the elimination table, I'm just a huge maths nerd.

I hear ya. I like maths and I have a weight problem too.