Sheridan has (allegedly) lost the dressing room.

[FordGreen]

I certainly don't 'hate' him but that's not to say that I particularly care for him either - always comes across as surly, downbeat and remote from the fan base - so it's hard to generate much empathy for the bloke, tbh. For that reason, the rubbish served up at HP this season and the over-riding fact that we have hardly progressed at all since this time last year (Christ knows how we are actually 9th!!), I'd be happy to see Sheridan replaced at the end of this campaign. I have always thought, and still do, that we will go nowhere fast under his stewardship. :thumbdown:

 

[djg145]

Isn't it time for PLAYERS to take responsibility ?

Sounds like the ones at Man Utd need a kick up the ass has well!!

 

[Adam]

I wouldn't like to think Sheridan is hated by the fans. I really hope he isn't anyway.

I think the problem lies with the fans. Some have been quick to forget our Administration period with subsequent relegations and believe that we will just shoot right up the table again. Last season we were battling out in the relegation zone, this season we've been battling it out for the Playoffs. Even if we don't reach them, we can't say it hasn't been a successful season.

I think it's poor form from some of the fans to be so expectant. Football is about winning AND losing, it's just what happens. Fine, John Sheridan may have been the manager when we lost 5 of our last 7 but he was also the manager when we were on an unbeaten run earlier in the season.

These things take time and a crap load of patience. Football in League 2 is completely different to what we watch on Match of the Day and I think sometimes that people forget that. Yes we don't have the same quality of players but people forget that we don't have the same training facilties, the number of coaches, specialised coaches and fanbase aswell. We are currently a League 2 team and we shouldn't forget that. Having ambition is fine, but be realistic and take one step at a time.

This season is about Argyle challenging for the Playoffs, next season the expectations should be about actually reaching the Playoffs. If we don't get promoted via the Playoffs then we should be favourites for automatic promotion the season after.

One step at a time.

 

[Gary Wills]

Anyone with a different opinion is a forgetful moron. Apparently.

 

[Bristol Rich]

I wouldn't like to think Sheridan is hated by the fans. I really hope he isn't anyway.

I think the problem lies with the fans. Some have been quick to forget our Administration period with subsequent relegations and believe that we will just shoot right up the table again. Last season we were battling out in the relegation zone, this season we've been battling it out for the Playoffs. Even if we don't reach them, we can't say it hasn't been a successful season.

I think it's poor form from some of the fans to be so expectant. Football is about winning AND losing, it's just what happens. Fine, John Sheridan may have been the manager when we lost 5 of our last 7 but he was also the manager when we were on an unbeaten run earlier in the season.

These things take time and a crap load of patience. Football in League 2 is completely different to what we watch on Match of the Day and I think sometimes that people forget that. Yes we don't have the same quality of players but people forget that we don't have the same training facilties, the number of coaches, specialised coaches and fanbase aswell. We are currently a League 2 team and we shouldn't forget that. Having ambition is fine, but be realistic and take one step at a time.

This season is about Argyle challenging for the Playoffs, next season the expectations should be about actually reaching the Playoffs. If we don't get promoted via the Playoffs then we should be favourites for automatic promotion the season after.

One step at a time.

Well meaning post, but total drivel. Look at the facts, we are only 6 points better off than last season, there has not been big improvements, the devil is in the detail! Instead of blaming the fans look at the reasons why we are frustrated. I look at Rovers and wonder if that will be us next season, John Ward made far bigger strides last year than Sheridan has this year and what's more Sheridan knows he has underperformed.

 

[Emu]

I wouldn't like to think Sheridan is hated by the fans. I really hope he isn't anyway.

I think the problem lies with the fans. Some have been quick to forget our Administration period with subsequent relegations and believe that we will just shoot right up the table again. Last season we were battling out in the relegation zone, this season we've been battling it out for the Playoffs. Even if we don't reach them, we can't say it hasn't been a successful season.

I think it's poor form from some of the fans to be so expectant. Football is about winning AND losing, it's just what happens. Fine, John Sheridan may have been the manager when we lost 5 of our last 7 but he was also the manager when we were on an unbeaten run earlier in the season.

These things take time and a crap load of patience. Football in League 2 is completely different to what we watch on Match of the Day and I think sometimes that people forget that. Yes we don't have the same quality of players but people forget that we don't have the same training facilties, the number of coaches, specialised coaches and fanbase aswell. We are currently a League 2 team and we shouldn't forget that. Having ambition is fine, but be realistic and take one step at a time.

This season is about Argyle challenging for the Playoffs, next season the expectations should be about actually reaching the Playoffs. If we don't get promoted via the Playoffs then we should be favourites for automatic promotion the season after.

One step at a time.

Well meaning post, but total drivel. Look at the facts, we are only 6 points better off than last season, there has not been big improvements, the devil is in the detail! Instead of blaming the fans look at the reasons why we are frustrated. I look at Rovers and wonder if that will be us next season, John Ward made far bigger strides last year than Sheridan has this year and what's more Sheridan knows he has underperformed.

Are you talking about the same John Ward who got shoved 'upstairs' by Rovers a few weeks ago due to their poor form?

 

[Quintrell Green]

Respect in the dressing room is difficult to achieve for a manager after trashing your players openly in the press regularly.

Such sensitive souls! Perhaps they should man-up a little. It is not an under 15 team we are talking about.

 

[demportdave]

I wouldn't like to think Sheridan is hated by the fans. I really hope he isn't anyway.

I think the problem lies with the fans. Some have been quick to forget our Administration period with subsequent relegations and believe that we will just shoot right up the table again. Last season we were battling out in the relegation zone, this season we've been battling it out for the Playoffs. Even if we don't reach them, we can't say it hasn't been a successful season.

I think it's poor form from some of the fans to be so expectant. Football is about winning AND losing, it's just what happens. Fine, John Sheridan may have been the manager when we lost 5 of our last 7 but he was also the manager when we were on an unbeaten run earlier in the season.

These things take time and a crap load of patience. Football in League 2 is completely different to what we watch on Match of the Day and I think sometimes that people forget that. Yes we don't have the same quality of players but people forget that we don't have the same training facilties, the number of coaches, specialised coaches and fanbase aswell. We are currently a League 2 team and we shouldn't forget that. Having ambition is fine, but be realistic and take one step at a time.

This season is about Argyle challenging for the Playoffs, next season the expectations should be about actually reaching the Playoffs. If we don't get promoted via the Playoffs then we should be favourites for automatic promotion the season after.

One step at a time.

Well meaning post, but total drivel. Look at the facts, we are only 6 points better off than last season, there has not been big improvements, the devil is in the detail! Instead of blaming the fans look at the reasons why we are frustrated. I look at Rovers and wonder if that will be us next season, John Ward made far bigger strides last year than Sheridan has this year and what's more Sheridan knows he has underperformed.

Are you talking about the same John Ward who got shoved 'upstairs' by Rovers a few weeks ago due to their poor form?

Yes, that's exactly the point.

Bristol Rovers under Ward did really well in the second half of last season and their fans would have expected them to push on again this time but instead, they are fighting for their lives at the bottom.

Too many Sheridan-apologists on PASOTI appear to believe that because we have improved our League position on last season, the same thing will happen again automatically next season and we are going to be genuine and sustained Promotion candidates.

I don't think that will necessary be the case because I don't believe that Sheridan can dismantle this team as he's saying he will and then bring in the quantity and quality of new signings needed to get us in the Promotion shake-up.

He has been telling us for more that 12 months how difficult it has been to get the players he wants to come down here, so what's changed?

Stand by for more deadwood who can't get any other club.

However, at least the green-tints will have a ready-made excuse for another season of under-achievement next year as they will blame it on too many new signings needing time to settle down.

PS Please stop using Administration as an excuse for mediocrity, it's wearing a bit thin now and sounds like the present Government blaming the previous one 4 years down the line.

 

[Ollieargyle9]

Too many Sheridan-apologists on PASOTI appear to believe that because we have improved our League position on last season, the same thing will happen again automatically next season and we are going to be genuine and sustained Promotion candidates.

Who is saying this? Nobody believes anything is automatic as far as I can see, people simply believe progress has been made to which they hope further progress can be made next season. Nothing is guaranteed but we are certainly in a better position this time around with a team worthy of at least challenging for promotion already on the books than we were last year with a team that could only keep us in the division by the skin of our teeth.

Nothing is guaranteed and there will certainly be no apologies for not achieving promotion or the playoffs next season having challenged for them this year, the only way forwards from here is to actually make the playoffs/promotion next season. If too many players are signed and need to settle that is the fault of just one man and that is JS. It is now his decision as to who stays and who goes to which he must find the balance between making enough changes to see us improve next season without having too greater impact on the group dynamic by shipping out too many and starting again.

 

[demportdave]

Too many Sheridan-apologists on PASOTI appear to believe that because we have improved our League position on last season, the same thing will happen again automatically next season and we are going to be genuine and sustained Promotion candidates.

Who is saying this? Nobody believes anything is automatic as far as I can see, people simply believe progress has been made to which they hope further progress can be made next season. Nothing is guaranteed but we are certainly in a better position this time around with a team worthy of at least challenging for promotion already on the books than we were last year with a team that could only keep us in the division by the skin of our teeth.

Nothing is guaranteed and there will certainly be no apologies for not achieving promotion or the playoffs next season having challenged for them this year, the only way forwards from here is to actually make the playoffs/promotion next season. If too many players are signed and need to settle that is the fault of just one man and that is JS. It is now his decision as to who stays and who goes to which he must find the balance between making enough changes to see us improve next season without having too greater impact on the group dynamic by shipping out too many and starting again.

Ollie, look back at previous postings on a number of threads and you will see that a lot of people are prepared to write off this season because they think we will be serious Promotion contenders next season.

As for players, Sheridan is on record as saying there will be big changes of personnel next season. He has said that there are no leaders or winners in the team and that he is going to change it.

When he spoke to the London supporters prior to the Dagenham game he said he was looking to bring in 10 players in the summer. He said it tongue in cheek but a lot of people thought there was something in it and I think there will be a major overhaul of the team and we will be back to square one.

The table tells us that we are in a better position than last season, that is a matter of fact, but it's not much to shout about. Our all too brief flirtation with the Play-Offs flattered to deceive and I think Sheridan is more aware of that than anyone.

I think we will see a number players come in and several go out but I don't expect us to improve significantly next year because I don't think Sheridan will improve as a Manager over the close season.

 

[Bubba]

I wouldn't like to think Sheridan is hated by the fans. I really hope he isn't anyway.

I think the problem lies with the fans. Some have been quick to forget our Administration period with subsequent relegations and believe that we will just shoot right up the table again. Last season we were battling out in the relegation zone, this season we've been battling it out for the Playoffs. Even if we don't reach them, we can't say it hasn't been a successful season.

I think it's poor form from some of the fans to be so expectant. Football is about winning AND losing, it's just what happens. Fine, John Sheridan may have been the manager when we lost 5 of our last 7 but he was also the manager when we were on an unbeaten run earlier in the season.

These things take time and a crap load of patience. Football in League 2 is completely different to what we watch on Match of the Day and I think sometimes that people forget that. Yes we don't have the same quality of players but people forget that we don't have the same training facilties, the number of coaches, specialised coaches and fanbase aswell. We are currently a League 2 team and we shouldn't forget that. Having ambition is fine, but be realistic and take one step at a time.

This season is about Argyle challenging for the Playoffs, next season the expectations should be about actually reaching the Playoffs. If we don't get promoted via the Playoffs then we should be favourites for automatic promotion the season after.

One step at a time.

Well meaning post, but total drivel. Look at the facts, we are only 6 points better off than last season, there has not been big improvements, the devil is in the detail! Instead of blaming the fans look at the reasons why we are frustrated. I look at Rovers and wonder if that will be us next season, John Ward made far bigger strides last year than Sheridan has this year and what's more Sheridan knows he has underperformed.

Are you talking about the same John Ward who got shoved 'upstairs' by Rovers a few weeks ago due to their poor form?

Yes, that's exactly the point.

Bristol Rovers under Ward did really well in the second half of last season and their fans would have expected them to push on again this time but instead, they are fighting for their lives at the bottom.

Too many Sheridan-apologists on PASOTI appear to believe that because we have improved our League position on last season, the same thing will happen again automatically next season and we are going to be genuine and sustained Promotion candidates.

I don't think that will necessary be the case because I don't believe that Sheridan can dismantle this team as he's saying he will and then bring in the quantity and quality of new signings needed to get us in the Promotion shake-up.

He has been telling us for more that 12 months how difficult it has been to get the players he wants to come down here, so what's changed?

Stand by for more deadwood who can't get any other club.

However, at least the green-tints will have a ready-made excuse for another season of under-achievement next year as they will blame it on too many new signings needing time to settle down.

PS Please stop using Administration as an excuse for mediocrity, it's wearing a bit thin now and sounds like the present Government blaming the previous one 4 years down the line.

Quick question Dave how do you know that was the point Bristol Rich was making?? Looks like you were answering Emu

 

[Quizmike]

Dave your whole argument hinges on assumptions you are making about next season, whereas the people you disagree with have fact on their side.

You don't like Sheridan. That's fair enough. But just because people have a different view does not warrant calling them "apologists" or "tints". Some people are looking forward to next season in a literal sense.

 

[Ottawa Green]

Quizmike, are you questioning demportdave or Bristol Rich, as i'm totally confused it's like they are both the same person talking to themselves.

 

[Bristol Rich]

I think it's the facts that are the problem, there has only been marginal improvement this season. Our league position is better due to the league being closer. There is no indication of significant improvement this season. As I keep saying the devil is in the detail. My comparison with John Ward was that he made huge improvements to Rovers last season but he gets sacked this year, my argument is there is little reason to believe things will be better next year.

 

[Quizmike]

Quizmike, are you questioning demportdave or Bristol Rich, as i'm totally confused it's like they are both the same person talking to themselves.

Anyone who is interested really. So in actuality I'm probably talking to myself too.