Club President wants Mayflower open for Pompey

[IJN]

No it's not but to explain.

As we spent time in the Championship our terracing was deemed unsafe.

But Exeter City who have been nowhere near the 2nd tier of English football can have a terrace so it must be deemed safe.

Then add to it that Barnet are allowed to build a brand new ground with terracing illustrates what a truly stupid rule this is.

 

[derbygreen]

I'm sure Pompey would bring 3k - 4k fans down if we gave them the tickets. With that in mind I believe we would sell 14k home tickets which would be the same add last year and I think the opposition would attack more. It would sell out I have no doubt.

 

[KBGreen]

Ah well that explains it then!?

Is there not a bit of a legal challenge that could be made, given the inconsistency? Sounds like a ludicrous set of rules to me.... but ah wait, this is football we are talking about!

Thx IJN

 

[djg145]

We won't sell out the home end anyway so not a great deal of point debating it. Not forgetting that there'll also be 2 blocks of OTT segregation too; can guarantee there'll be tickets available on the morning of the match still

Never understood why we always have 2 blocks for segregation - Premier games and including 'derby' matches only have one line of stewards dividing them lol

 

[djg145]

As well as getting the mayflower open, move the family stand back to block 1 and get the old Zoo Corner opened up next season. The atmosphere has all but died these days.

I don't know why people keep going on about moving it. The Family Zone For All (I think that's it's proper name) is a resounding success and I can't see it moving.

Bob can't agree how do you measure success do we have more families attending than when it was in the Devonport end.

It definetly has had a negative effect on the atmosphere in the ground, there was always good rivalry between Zoo Corner and the Devonport end creating a fantastic atmosphere between the two sets of home supporters.

No football person would use the family zone as a barrier between home and away fans.

It would not surprise me if they move the family zone when we play Portsmouth.

As for the Mayflower the sooner that is open the better.

Mike, the club regard it as a roaring success. Hasn't it helped us win a couple of family awards. I agree that a lot of the atmosphere has been lost but logistically that corner is the only place for it.

Damn I thought we were a FOOTBALL team chasing Football Trophies - never knew Argyle were there just to win 'family awards'

 

[oddball]

As well as getting the mayflower open, move the family stand back to block 1 and get the old Zoo Corner opened up next season. The atmosphere has all but died these days.

I don't know why people keep going on about moving it. The Family Zone For All (I think that's it's proper name) is a resounding success and I can't see it moving.

Bob can't agree how do you measure success do we have more families attending than when it was in the Devonport end.l

It definetly has had a negative effect on the atmosphere in the ground, there was always good rivalry between Zoo Corner and the Devonport end creating a fantastic atmosphere between the two sets of home supporters.

No football person would use the family zone as a barrier between home and away fans.

It would not surprise me if they move the family zone when we play Portsmouth.

As for the Mayflower the sooner that is open the better.

Dunlop...quite agree with that....whenever a big crowd is expected the first thing Argyle do is move the family zone so as to accommodate more fans.We will probably see this done for the Portsmouth home leg according to demand. Which makes a mockery of ever putting it where it is in the first place.Another own goal by Argyle....just like the Argyle Angels and the Force Verde...pathetic in the extreme...

 

[keepthefaith70]

Absolutely brilliant idea and please can AFT / President/ and anyone who can get the ear of Martyn Starnes, James Brent etc to at least explore this opportunity.
The atmosphere here prior to its closure was always remarked on, by away fans, their players and those in their dug-outs, as intimidating and making it a difficult place to play.

Would much rather be sat behind the away dug-out shouting and winding up their bench, than from my current seat at the back of the Lyndhurst.

 

[Lundan Cabbie]

Ah well that explains it then!?

Is there not a bit of a legal challenge that could be made, given the inconsistency? Sounds like a ludicrous set of rules to me.... but ah wait, this is football we are talking about!

Thx IJN

Ian has been economical with the truth there. The law says that ALL FOOTBALL STADIUMS must be all seater and clubs have three years to comply once they reach tire two. Unfortunately, Argyle wasted their compliance time by simply installing temporary measures. Clubs like Exeter City and Barnet still have to comply but their "countdown clock" to compliance has yet to be started.

 

[Ade the green]

Ah well that explains it then!?

Is there not a bit of a legal challenge that could be made, given the inconsistency? Sounds like a ludicrous set of rules to me.... but ah wait, this is football we are talking about!

Thx IJN

Ian has been economical with the truth there. The law says that ALL FOOTBALL STADIUMS must be all seater and clubs have three years to comply once they reach tire two. Unfortunately, Argyle wasted their compliance time by simply installing temporary measures. Clubs like Exeter City and Barnet still have to comply but their "countdown clock" to compliance has yet to be started.

I think what Ian means when referring to Barnet is that if safety is paramount then surely all brand new stadia should comply to full seating. I do not however wish to put words in his mouth but it's how I read his reply. I didn't realise The Hive had a standing area.

 

[IJN]

Ah well that explains it then!?

Is there not a bit of a legal challenge that could be made, given the inconsistency? Sounds like a ludicrous set of rules to me.... but ah wait, this is football we are talking about!

Thx IJN

Ian has been economical with the truth there. The law says that ALL FOOTBALL STADIUMS must be all seater and clubs have three years to comply once they reach tire two. Unfortunately, Argyle wasted their compliance time by simply installing temporary measures. Clubs like Exeter City and Barnet still have to comply but their "countdown clock" to compliance has yet to be started.

:greensmile: You really are a referee aren't you Paul? :lol:

So, whilst the clock hasn't started, are their standing safe then?

Yes Ade that's exactly what I mean.

 

[Ollieargyle9]

Ah well that explains it then!?

Is there not a bit of a legal challenge that could be made, given the inconsistency? Sounds like a ludicrous set of rules to me.... but ah wait, this is football we are talking about!

Thx IJN

Ian has been economical with the truth there. The law says that ALL FOOTBALL STADIUMS must be all seater and clubs have three years to comply once they reach tire two. Unfortunately, Argyle wasted their compliance time by simply installing temporary measures. Clubs like Exeter City and Barnet still have to comply but their "countdown clock" to compliance has yet to be started.

But the whole point of the 2nd division rule is surely to ensure little clubs like Exeter aren't forced into financial difficulty because they have to carry out work on large parts of their ground to rid themselves of terraces, that rule looks like a complete farce when a club like Barnet builds an entirely new ground and spends money on putting in effectively new terracing.

If the rule was to make any sense it should be that you do not have to install seats unless you reach the 2nd tier or unless you are carrying out work on yours or a new ground in which case priority must go to safety (i.e. seating) first before expansion of the stands and of course under no uncertain terms must you actively build brand new terraces if it really is a serious safety concern.

 

[Lundan Cabbie]

Ah well that explains it then!?

Is there not a bit of a legal challenge that could be made, given the inconsistency? Sounds like a ludicrous set of rules to me.... but ah wait, this is football we are talking about!

Thx IJN

Ian has been economical with the truth there. The law says that ALL FOOTBALL STADIUMS must be all seater and clubs have three years to comply once they reach tire two. Unfortunately, Argyle wasted their compliance time by simply installing temporary measures. Clubs like Exeter City and Barnet still have to comply but their "countdown clock" to compliance has yet to be started.

I think what Ian means when referring to Barnet is that if safety is paramount then surely all brand new stadia should comply to full seating. I do not however wish to put words in his mouth but it's how I read his reply. I didn't realise The Hive had a standing area.

I couldn't agree more but if Barnet found a loophole, I very much doubt it would help Argyle at Home Park. It could be interesting if PAFC were to submit plans for a new stadium whist still in L1 or L2 and they wished to incorporate standing areas, quoting The Hive as a precedent.

 

[IJN]

I'm hoping safe standing comes in but my point wasn't Argyle finding any loophole (I'm sure they've tried and tried in past years) but what an absolute arse this 'rule' is.

 

[Lundan Cabbie]

Ah well that explains it then!?

Is there not a bit of a legal challenge that could be made, given the inconsistency? Sounds like a ludicrous set of rules to me.... but ah wait, this is football we are talking about!

Thx IJN

Ian has been economical with the truth there. The law says that ALL FOOTBALL STADIUMS must be all seater and clubs have three years to comply once they reach tire two. Unfortunately, Argyle wasted their compliance time by simply installing temporary measures. Clubs like Exeter City and Barnet still have to comply but their "countdown clock" to compliance has yet to be started.

:greensmile: You really are a referee aren't you Paul? :lol:

So, whilst the clock hasn't started, are their standing safe then?

Yes Ade that's exactly what I mean.

The law doesn't say that terracing is unsafe, it just says that all seater stands are safer.

Oh and yes, I am a former referee and I am also the former London Fire Brigade Liaison Officer for Barnet FC (1995/2004)

 

[IJN]

And a Train Spotter?