jerryatricjanner":201zm0s1 said:To some extent this seems like a last attempt to save some credibility. Was the HHP scheme ever going to happen even before the British Land scheme was first mooted? JB was having clear problems trying to sell the units and finance what was an unattractive scheme all round. Along came British Land, a developer with a proven track record of delivering projects regularly and on time without having to borrow and use other peoples' money to finance their schemes. Just maybe the council themselves have come to the end of their tether with Mr Brent. As an outsider and very much a layman knowing nothing about the inner workings of such things maybe they have seen the lack of delivery from Mr Brent, even the lack of making a start on other projects and thought enough is enough. Let's not forget the council too played a huge part in saving the club whilst it was in administration and again recently facilitated payment of a large chunk of the balloon payment with another loan. Mr Brent drives a very hard bargain with everyone and is a master of brinkmanship as we have seen with the creditors as he is entitled to as a business man and maybe he is still trying to squeeze even more from the council now in his negotiations and they feel enough is enough. I don't know the answers and I am merely hazarding some sort of guess as an onlooker from some distance. I would not be surprised to see Mr Brent look for some sort of exit strategy now to be honest in the form of a buyer for the club.
cheshiregreen":201zm0s1 said:MM - what I meant was - I have always heard that our current owner has a lot of influence wih PCC. However, clearly the negotiations here have floundered (or worse) and this is very much a last throw of the dice.
IJN speaks of "war breaking out" - but the Board are saying surely that if Bretonside goes ahead our scheme is at an end. So, it's a spot of brinkmanship, but, what cards do PAFC hold if PCC goes with Bretonside? None that I can think of - we stay with our current antiquated facilities and unless we find alternative funding (at some point in the future), the club flounders in the lower Leagues with a Grandstand that at some point in the coming years will be unsafe for use.
PL2 3DQ":2ld5dlxp said:It looks like the PCC are caught between British Land and JB/Argyle and should back the scheme they have already given planning permission to.
The statement from the club requests that PCC make a choice and be quick about it. The HHP project was first, has planning permission and should be given priority by PCC.
However, a short term compromise would be for the PCC to fund the build of a new grandstand now and give planning permission to allow the British Land development to go ahead with a scaled down version of HHP development taking place in the long term.
Can a grandstand now, British Land development soon and a smaller HHP built later work for everyone?
It will be interesting to see if and how BL and PCC respond.
Leigh Rapson":2wj00n9o said:Is it possible JB has had a falling out with the council and this is a dig?
Surely if PCC were (as rumoured) to be paying for grandstand the last thing we need is for them to fall out.
Pafcintheplace":zf363fuq said:he's had plenty of time to get the diggers in.