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Home Park Development (PCC agenda 14th December 2pm)
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kernow19":1a3ou12o said:
Poor choice of words there. You make it sound as if that's as far as the club would want to go. When saying that the goal is to return to the Championship, they are NOT saying that this is the limits of their ambition.
Lundan Cabbie":2vpm5lsv said:
I think he's clued up enough to know that the Championship is probably as far as he can get us. If and when that happens, we will be a far more attractive proposition for a potential buyer than we are now, plus Mr Brent will still be sitting on the commercial activities. Everyone's a winner.
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SwimWithTheTide":2a6j2iki said:
Funny, I must have missed the bit when JB sold out to the "Hallett family", I understood it to be a joint PAFC/Akkeron application. Oh well we live and learn. :twisted:
SwimWithTheTide":1bs10xfp said:
The view from your soapbox is obviously not that great, you should re-read my post, "joint application". :twisted:
No soapbox my devilish friend, just a simplistic breakdown.
What? Grandstand.
For who? PAFC
Paid for by? PAFC
Funded by? Hallett family loan.
What? Everything else.
For who? Akkeron/James Brent.
Not sure how he intends to fund it mind.
Just my point that the joint application decision seems to have delayed things. The Grandstand refurb is a fairly straightforward application isn't it and unlikely to be rejected? It's based on an existing structure.
The HHP and Western Gateway stuff is irrelevant but has been added to the application, why? As I said, some say it was a logistical move and money saver. Others may see it as a sly way to put pressure on accepting the lot because of the Grandstand lure. I'm not saying it's necessarily my view, but I can see why it can be read as such.
If I want to put an extension on my house and build a conservatory, I'm not going to knock on the door of the landlord of the local pub and ask him if I can add my conservatory plans onto his plans to demolish and build flats am I?
What? Grandstand.
For who? PAFC
Paid for by? PAFC
Funded by? Hallett family loan.
What? Everything else.
For who? Akkeron/James Brent.
Not sure how he intends to fund it mind.
Just my point that the joint application decision seems to have delayed things. The Grandstand refurb is a fairly straightforward application isn't it and unlikely to be rejected? It's based on an existing structure.
The HHP and Western Gateway stuff is irrelevant but has been added to the application, why? As I said, some say it was a logistical move and money saver. Others may see it as a sly way to put pressure on accepting the lot because of the Grandstand lure. I'm not saying it's necessarily my view, but I can see why it can be read as such.
If I want to put an extension on my house and build a conservatory, I'm not going to knock on the door of the landlord of the local pub and ask him if I can add my conservatory plans onto his plans to demolish and build flats am I?
I don’t think our fan base is any larger. I remember going to an old div 3 game not so long ago for a midweek game with 28000 other folk. It’s just that our fan base is different. Some people prefer football on their XBox, some prefer to go to Manchester and some still support the mighty greens. But the days when 28000 people would turn out for an Argyle game are long since past I’m afraid.
I meant in the last 20 years or so Kentish. The Premier League era, as it was clearly a significant shift in the attitude of the game - the days of a working class game that saw 30,000 on the terraces at HP are long gone, but that applies to almost every ground in the country, except maybe our forward thinking opponents from yesterday.
I'm not in a position to pull out the stats off GoS yet, but I think if you compare like for like from the previous times we were in the 4th tier to now, there's an uplift in core support. Particularly with the 6,500 that regularly saw us get turned over at the arse end of League Two.
I asked on a recent thread about an LDV trophy match against Exeter which had about 1,500 turn up to compare with the current situation of the chekafraud when we had 3,000 odd (?). In the same competition and fixture over the last 20 odd years we've had attendances from 1,500 to 11,000 to 3,000 (during a boycott).
I'm not in a position to pull out the stats off GoS yet, but I think if you compare like for like from the previous times we were in the 4th tier to now, there's an uplift in core support. Particularly with the 6,500 that regularly saw us get turned over at the arse end of League Two.
I asked on a recent thread about an LDV trophy match against Exeter which had about 1,500 turn up to compare with the current situation of the chekafraud when we had 3,000 odd (?). In the same competition and fixture over the last 20 odd years we've had attendances from 1,500 to 11,000 to 3,000 (during a boycott).
We have had sell-outs a few times in recent years, which suggests that crowds of over 20,000 could have been achieved with the capacity to hold them. In my view the crowds could have reached 30,000 for games like Liverpool and the cup quarter final, to say nothing of some of our Championship fixtures. Why people choose to ignore this sort of thing I do not know.Kentishgreen":24n88i3z said:
