Stewarding in Lyndhurst Stand

[GreenMatt]

Wasn't at the game today so can't comment on any individual incident but was at a game earlier in the season when the same system was used. On that occasion I saw 2 people who left early but were stopped by stewards from going the way they wanted to spend 5 minutes abusing and pushing stewards when it would have taken no longer to simply walk the other way. After the game I left via the exit I was asked to and it made not a jot of difference on me leaving. In my opinion, anyone getting worked up or trying to shove past stewards for asking them to leave via a different exit is simply doing it to have a dig at stewards or get some power trip out of it.

 

[clokey84]

I find the stewards in the Devonport to be absolutely fantastic. Always friendly, up for a chat and a good laugh.

There is a big difference between the stewards in the demport and lyndy ends.. I alternate between the ends throughout the season, the demport have young girls, middle aged woman and old blokes mainly Sat around talking (as there ain't a lot for them to do) the lyndy on the other hand has the same guys that bounce the nightclubs down union street and they seem to enjoy nothing more than throwing people out as aggressively as possible, have witnessed this on many occasions!

 

[Johndelve]

What is it about German football, that can clear a stadium of 13k in literally 5 minutes, but we can't clear a ground of less than half at number in 20-25 mins?

Because our ground is badly designed with just exits at the front which in the case of block 12 means a large number of fans trying to get out one exit .

Most grounds would have an exit at the back too, or in the case of larger stadiums one halfway back.

It is the main reason that people get out of their seats as soon as stoppage time board is held up. They simply can't be bothered to wait 15 mins to leave the ground ( understandably ). They should however , just leave and not block the view of others .

Was told at half time yesterday that we couldn't sit down on the barrier at the front ! ! It was half time FFs , not during the game. Not the stewards fault, he was just acting on instructions of tinpot Hitler who was no doubt bullied at school.

 

[Lundan Cabbie]

What is it about German football, that can clear a stadium of 13k in literally 5 minutes, but we can't clear a ground of less than half at number in 20-25 mins?

Because our ground is badly designed with just exits at the front which in the case of block 12 means a large number of fans trying to get out one exit .

Most grounds would have an exit at the back too, or in the case of larger stadiums one halfway back.

It is the main reason that people get out of their seats as soon as stoppage time board is held up. They simply can't be bothered to wait 15 mins to leave the ground ( understandably ). They should however , just leave and not block the view of others .

Was told at half time yesterday that we couldn't sit down on the barrier at the front ! ! It was half time FFs , not during the game. Not the stewards fault, he was just acting on instructions of tinpot Hitler who was no doubt bullied at school.

Do you mean the barrier between the front row and the pitch? Why would you want to sit there when you have a perfectly good seat if you need to sit down?

The safety certificate will say that this area should be kept clear at all times. Not just during play but during the pre match warm ups and half time too. It's a bit much to call somebody a tinpot Hitler for simply designing safety measures that are agreed with the authorities and are there for the safety of everyone. If you are wanting to be sat on a barrier at half time in an area that should remain clear at all times then it is you that is in the wrong here, not the steward or those making the rules.

 

[Swillyboy]

A fellow-supporter suggested that I write to Dave Boobyer and I did so. I received a prompt reply. I sent a supplementary comment and again received a prompt and helpful reply. I am hopeful that this matter will now be satisfactorily resolved to the benefit and convenience of nearly all concerned (not the people who want to walk from one end of the ground to the other during the game, of course). I am sure that it is right to allow the Devonport End to clear before people from the Lyndhurst Stand go out through the vehicular access gate - what seems less reasonable is to continue to enforce that when there is hardly anyone left in the ground.

My further observations were: supporters who want to leave before the end of the game (not something I have ever done) by the exit from their block by going down the steps and turning left (as well as right) and leaving by their nearest exit should be allowed to do so. In effect, the stewards are wrongly positioned at the exits and should be positioned at the bottom of the steps and should allow people coming down the steps to go either way but not allow people seeking to walk along the whole length of the pitch during the game to do so.

 

[djg145]

What is it about German football, that can clear a stadium of 13k in literally 5 minutes, but we can't clear a ground of less than half at number in 20-25 mins?

Because our ground is badly designed with just exits at the front which in the case of block 12 means a large number of fans trying to get out one exit .

Most grounds would have an exit at the back too, or in the case of larger stadiums one halfway back.

It is the main reason that people get out of their seats as soon as stoppage time board is held up. They simply can't be bothered to wait 15 mins to leave the ground ( understandably ). They should however , just leave and not block the view of others .

Was told at half time yesterday that we couldn't sit down on the barrier at the front ! ! It was half time FFs , not during the game. Not the stewards fault, he was just acting on instructions of tinpot Hitler who was no doubt bullied at school.

Do you mean the barrier between the front row and the pitch? Why would you want to sit there when you have a perfectly good seat if you need to sit down?

The safety certificate will say that this area should be kept clear at all times. Not just during play but during the pre match warm ups and half time too. It's a bit much to call somebody a tinpot Hitler for simply designing safety measures that are agreed with the authorities and are there for the safety of everyone. If you are wanting to be sat on a barrier at half time in an area that should remain clear at all times then it is you that is in the wrong here, not the steward or those making the rules.

You mention the pre-match warm ups and sitting on the barrier between the stand and the pitch, and this area being kept clear. During the pre-match warm up, hundreds of people stand in that area, watching the players warm up, you know this area that must be kept clear. The main problem is the poor design of the horseshoe. The Demport End has THREE exits plus the larger vehicular exit, this exit is also the nearest for those sitting in block 6, so are people saying those in block 6 should not use the vehicular exit?

 

[IJN]

A fellow-supporter suggested that I write to Dave Boobyer and I did so. I received a prompt reply. I sent a supplementary comment and again received a prompt and helpful reply.

Well done Dave Boobyer.

:clap:

 

[Johndelve]

What is it about German football, that can clear a stadium of 13k in literally 5 minutes, but we can't clear a ground of less than half at number in 20-25 mins?

Because our ground is badly designed with just exits at the front which in the case of block 12 means a large number of fans trying to get out one exit .

Most grounds would have an exit at the back too, or in the case of larger stadiums one halfway back.

It is the main reason that people get out of their seats as soon as stoppage time board is held up. They simply can't be bothered to wait 15 mins to leave the ground ( understandably ). They should however , just leave and not block the view of others .

Was told at half time yesterday that we couldn't sit down on the barrier at the front ! ! It was half time FFs , not during the game. Not the stewards fault, he was just acting on instructions of tinpot Hitler who was no doubt bullied at school.

Do you mean the barrier between the front row and the pitch? Why would you want to sit there when you have a perfectly good seat if you need to sit down?

The safety certificate will say that this area should be kept clear at all times. Not just during play but during the pre match warm ups and half time too. It's a bit much to call somebody a tinpot Hitler for simply designing safety measures that are agreed with the authorities and are there for the safety of everyone. If you are wanting to be sat on a barrier at half time in an area that should remain clear at all times then it is you that is in the wrong here, not the steward or those making the rules.

Yes, I have a perfectly good seat but if I wish to speak to someone who doesn't sit next to me I can't can I ? My point is, sitting there for 2 mins wasn't hurting anyone , certainly not blocking any escape route ( exit was by seats not the pitch ) and people have been doing it for 10 years plus since the stand was built , so what was so different about yesterday ? And if the area, as you say, is to be kept clear at all times how the hell do you leave a seat to walk to the exit ? For the record they were not stopping people standing there, just anyone who was sat on the barrier so it had nothing to do with keeping the area clear .

 

[Lundan Cabbie]

What is it about German football, that can clear a stadium of 13k in literally 5 minutes, but we can't clear a ground of less than half at number in 20-25 mins?

Because our ground is badly designed with just exits at the front which in the case of block 12 means a large number of fans trying to get out one exit .

Most grounds would have an exit at the back too, or in the case of larger stadiums one halfway back.

It is the main reason that people get out of their seats as soon as stoppage time board is held up. They simply can't be bothered to wait 15 mins to leave the ground ( understandably ). They should however , just leave and not block the view of others .

Was told at half time yesterday that we couldn't sit down on the barrier at the front ! ! It was half time FFs , not during the game. Not the stewards fault, he was just acting on instructions of tinpot Hitler who was no doubt bullied at school.

Do you mean the barrier between the front row and the pitch? Why would you want to sit there when you have a perfectly good seat if you need to sit down?

The safety certificate will say that this area should be kept clear at all times. Not just during play but during the pre match warm ups and half time too. It's a bit much to call somebody a tinpot Hitler for simply designing safety measures that are agreed with the authorities and are there for the safety of everyone. If you are wanting to be sat on a barrier at half time in an area that should remain clear at all times then it is you that is in the wrong here, not the steward or those making the rules.

Yes, I have a perfectly good seat but if I wish to speak to someone who doesn't sit next to me I can't can I ? My point is, sitting there for 2 mins wasn't hurting anyone , certainly not blocking any escape route ( exit was by seats not the pitch ) and people have been doing it for 10 years plus since the stand was built , so what was so different about yesterday ? And if the area, as you say, is to be kept clear at all times how the hell do you leave a seat to walk to the exit ? For the record they were not stopping people standing there, just anyone who was sat on the barrier so it had nothing to do with keeping the area clear .

The fact that you may regularly break the speed limit without being fined is no excuse when you finally get stopped.

Just accept that sitting on the barrier is not the place really to sit. If you get away with it the bonus but if asked to move on the just move on. I'm sure there are plenty of areas in the concourse to socialise.

 

[paperboy]

For all the poor stewarding in the stadium, at least they (stewards) don't block anybody's view for the 5 minutes or so before the final whistle unlike the ignorant fans who think not for other fans but just leave and cause annoyances to others.

 

[Jasa]

For all the poor stewarding in the stadium, at least they (stewards) don't block anybody's view for the 5 minutes or so before the final whistle unlike the ignorant fans who think not for other fans but just leave and cause annoyances to others.

You laugh but yesterday, this is exactly what they were doing. Stood to the right of each exit therefore blocking people's views sat next to them.

 

[Cobi Budge.]

Agree with you 100% paperboy.

More fans seemed to flood out of HP early yesterday than they did when we were loosing on Tuesday.

I acknowledge that many do have legitimate reasons to leave early, but surely not all of them? As I have said before, I've been to about 60 stadiums & Home Park seems by far the worst for fans leaving early, regardless of the scoreline.

I feel for the people in the front couple of rows, I really do, especially those who are disabled.

Excluding Wycombe home last season I've never left a match early, and especially when we are winning, I couldn't really contemplate leaving a game early and not being able to see or celebrate the final whistle or show my appreciation for the players.

 

[Dazzy3000]

Agree with you 100% paperboy.

More fans seemed to flood out of HP early yesterday than they did when we were loosing on Tuesday.

I acknowledge that many do have legitimate reasons to leave early, but surely not all of them? As I have said before, I've been to about 60 stadiums & Home Park seems by far the worst for fans leaving early, regardless of the scoreline.

I feel for the people in the front couple of rows, I really do, especially those who are disabled.

Excluding Wycombe home last season I've never left a match early, and especially when we are winning, I couldn't really contemplate leaving a game early and not being able to see or celebrate the final whistle or show my appreciation for the players.

In my experience we're no worse for this than any other team.

 

[clokey84]

To me it is obvious why more fans would leave early yesterday apposed to Tuesday when we were losing because yesterday we were two up and the game was over so yeah get out quickly, get to the car/bus/bar or whatever before it is a free for all! Tuesday on the other hand we were one down so the majority stay in hope of seeing an equaliser!

 

[Lundan Cabbie]

To me it is obvious why more fans would leave early yesterday apposed to Tuesday when we were losing because yesterday we were two up and the game was over so yeah get out quickly, get to the car/bus/bar or whatever before it is a free for all! Tuesday on the other hand we were one down so the majority stay in hope of seeing an equaliser!

Must be an X Factor thing :greensmile: