The disgraceful state of the ground

[derbygreen]

Just to add, my brick is cracked in the corner. This wouldn't have happened if it was part of a wall.

 

[IJN]

We were told that it was a 'wall' at the start, I remember that quite clearly.

 

[Ade the green]

Excuse my ignorance but are these special bricks as opposed to normal house brick that have been engraved? If normal house bricks, can't an occasional low/medium power wash keep them clean and any mortar damage be rendered?

 

[dunlop]

I was told the bricks are not load bearing so would not be suitable to build a wall. I have two bricks and despair at the weeds growing in between the bricks, saying that it matches the tip around the HHP car park.

Not carrying out maintenance on the horse shoe is penny wise pound foolish and the lack of maintenance on the pitch is a crying shame.

 

[dunlop]

We were told that it was a 'wall' at the start, I remember that quite clearly.

Ian i think we were told they would be laid in their current position and then incorporated in the proposed new grandstand.

 

[Daz]

. This is not an issue for volunteer bucket rattling.

I truly despise that phrase Graham. Unusual for you to copy idiots rhetoric.

The phrase 'bucket rattlers' has for many years been associated with volunteer fundraising and it is an entirely appropriate phase to use in this case even though you may are unusually oversensitive to its use.

With respect Graham 'bucket rattlers/rattling' has been used for many years elsewhere to belittle the amazing fundraising that has not only been done by Ian, but by others outside of the internet world.

If you didn't mean it in a derogatory way you should have said 'volunteer fund raising.'

 

[ghost of hughie reed]

Since we rent the facility from the Council, how come they don't accept responsibility for the stadium maintenance ?
IIRC, should we return to the Championship, we have to give £500,000 pa rent ?
It seems we must be just renting the land the stadium sits on. Can the price be fair ?

 

[IJN]

I sat under a Summer Fete style canopy on Saturday, sitting on the most temporary of seats, I had a pee in a plastic Tardis and bought a Cornish Pasty from a caravan.

Both teams slugged it out and most went home very happy whether they were Gas or Green.

Just saying.

 

[Quintrell Green]

Since we rent the facility from the Council, how come they don't accept responsibility for the stadium maintenance ?
IIRC, should we return to the Championship, we have to give £500,000 pa rent ?
It seems we must be just renting the land the stadium sits on. Can the price be fair ?

I think you will find that responsibility for ground maintenance depends on the terms of the lease from Plymouth Council. If it is on F R I terms [I.E. Full Repairing and Insuring ] Argyle will be responsible for maintenance. Personally, I doubt very much whether the Council would want to get involved with painting etc.

 

[IJN]

I'd be totally amazed if they were as well.

Anything structural would probably be their responsibility but other than that, it's usually the tenant that has to upkeep.

 

[PL2 3DQ]

That's a shame and a slight on the volunteer fans, backed by the AFT, who carried out a previous clean-up with great pride and enthusiasm. Surely if fans want to help out and take pride in their club it's up to them and not be labelled "bucket rattlers".

http://pasoti.co.uk/talk/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=61204

 

[Bermudian Green]

Setting aside the obvious agenda the original poster has, the maintenance of a facility surely has to be high on the list of importance? Once maintenance is neglected, it becomes more and more costly to remedy.

Whilst we are only talking about bricks and peeling paint here, you can be sure that if these areas are not being maintained, then other areas such as structure and infrastructure are also being neglected.

To my mind there can only be a couple of reasons:

There is no stadium maintenance budget, or
the budget is too low, or
the budget is not being well spent

It really is a false economy.

 

[IJN]

Perhaps, just perhaps (and I have no inside knowledge of this) more priority is given to the playing staff in an effort to go onto a league which pays more so we can spend more.

That would make some sense wouldn't it?

A leaky tap or League One.

 

[L G]

Perhaps, just perhaps (and I have no inside knowledge of this) more priority is given to the playing staff in an effort to go onto a league which pays more so we can spend more.

That would make some sense wouldn't it?

A leaky tap or League One.

Well we better make it this season then Ian.
For all our sakes.

 

[Biggs]

Perhaps, just perhaps (and I have no inside knowledge of this) more priority is given to the playing staff in an effort to go onto a league which pays more so we can spend more.

That would make some sense wouldn't it?

A leaky tap or League One.

It's not either/or though, is it Ian? I don't think there have been board meetings in which there's been a dilemma between renewing Graham Carey's contract and clearing up some weeds.

I have to say I agree with Graham on this one. It's an easy thing to get right so I don't get why they've not been cleaned, especially given the sentimental attachment there is.