The club said when they sold tickets that it would be based on a first come first serve basis..it's that simple. It don't matter about age or how long you had your ticket how many games you been to . The club put it out in black and white and said that .

The club should honour what they said and that should be the end of this matter

But wasn’t there a delay for quite a few people I seem to remember trying to link accounts , and people not being able to get through on the phone lines ?

If that is the case it’s not so much first come first served , more of a lucky dip.

The club said when they sold tickets that it would be based on a first come first serve basis..it's that simple. It don't matter about age or how long you had your ticket how many games you been to . The club put it out in black and white and said that .

The club should honour what they said and that should be the end of this matter

But wasn’t there a delay for quite a few people I seem to remember trying to link accounts , and people not being able to get through on the phone lines ?

If that is the case it’s not so much first come first served , more of a lucky dip.

It's quite simple the club put it up in black and white . If they don't honour it . They will open themselves up to trading standards for misleading advertisement and miss selling of tickets

The club is not going to be able to win here. However they sort things out there are going to be some bitterly disappointed fans who feel they have been unfairly excluded. But I agree with Cult of P - I think the stance set out at the time of season ticket renewal was pretty clear. Some will still argue with it though.

Regardless of who is allowed into HP the experience is not going to be anything like normal. To get there for some will be a nightmare with a number of coaches not having enough customers to warrant running the service. Once you arrive you will be segregated at all times and presumably there will be little if any refreshments available. It will be great to watch live football again but at what cost?

Regardless of who is allowed into HP the experience is not going to be anything like normal. To get there for some will be a nightmare with a number of coaches not having enough customers to warrant running the service. Once you arrive you will be segregated at all times and presumably there will be little if any refreshments available. It will be great to watch live football again but at what cost?

Just being there will be enough. There might be less passion less songs less atmosphere but just the sights and smells of football at home park will be enough .

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Back in September the club said they were going through scenarios to allow fans to return to stadiums, presumably that would include a mass email to season holders depending on the timing of each purchase.
Hence the recent big push to ensure all ST holders email addresses were correct and not just for iFollow.

I would say the club are ready to accept fans back into the stadium, hopefully it's as advertised on the first come, first served basis.

PAFC

Steps taken by the club include newly-written operational documents, additional cleaning regimen, regular COVID testing, limiting personnel on-site, and stringent match-day temperature checks and social distancing rules.

We have also engaged with crowd safety professionals, at a local and national level, to ensure that our operational procedures are as COVID-secure as possible – and a number of our key personnel were in attendance at the test event at Cambridge United’s Abbey Stadium last week.

Throughout pre-season preparations, the club has worked closely with the EFL and our local Safety Advisory Group, to ensure that our match-day operations and supporting documentation are of the highest standards – and feedback from an EFL assessor in attendance at our Sky Bet League One victory over Blackpool was extremely positive.

The other issue for clubs like Argyle is that by letting in 4,000 or 2,000 fans will mean that as everyone will be season ticket holders they will be making even more of a loss as they will incur additional expenditure but not getting any extra income.

A team like Morecambe allowed 50% capacity will be able to have non season tickets holders in and so get revenue.

I think the thread has shown there are way too many questions and potential pitfalls with what the government are proposing and the club are onto a loser before they've even invited the first fan in.

I agree with the point HC has made (not interested in the Morecambe bit), allowing ST holders in will be a complete loss to the club, turnover from the kiosks will not cover the stewarding costs etc.

Maybe as ST holders we need to decide whether it's in the greater interest of the club for us to be the first back or accept i-follow for a little longer and allow the club to bring in ticket-paying supporters.

Either way the club's priority will be the Pioneer and similar groups first, then there will only be a few spaces left for "regular" ST holders to fill.

Then the debate begins, can they stick with the first-come-first-served (and as someone who renewed bang on 10am on renewal day I'm sure I'm near the top), but allow non-PL postcode supporters travel, or limit it to PL ST holders?

Should they limit it by choice of travel? Ask supporters who will drive their own cars or only those who can walk?

I don't envy the position they'll be in and I can only hope that as supporters of the club we can all be reasonable and accept their approach to the allocations.

Secondly it will cause an awful lot of friction and may even raise the spectre of legal challenges, e,g. we are in tier one and have 4000 supporters while another club is in tier four with no supporters. Hardly a level playing field given the way a team is lifted by it`s support. For me it has to be all or none.

Wow. I honestly couldn't disagree with you more JAF, but you're of course more than entitled to your opinion.

The other issue for clubs like Argyle is that by letting in 4,000 or 2,000 fans will mean that as everyone will be season ticket holders they will be making even more of a loss as they will incur additional expenditure but not getting any extra income.

A team like Morecambe allowed 50% capacity will be able to have non season tickets holders in and so get revenue.

morecambe ground capacity is 6,476 supporters, so they could have 3200, they usually average 1200 i can not see them attracting a extra 2k , exeter capacity is 8,500 , so they will be on 4k limit, which is fine for their support levels ,the smaller clubs are getting a better outcome on these rules for now

I think the thread has shown there are way too many questions and potential pitfalls with what the government are proposing and the club are onto a loser before they've even invited the first fan in.

I agree with the point HC has made (not interested in the Morecambe bit), allowing ST holders in will be a complete loss to the club, turnover from the kiosks will not cover the stewarding costs etc.

Maybe as ST holders we need to decide whether it's in the greater interest of the club for us to be the first back or accept i-follow for a little longer and allow the club to bring in ticket-paying supporters.

Either way the club's priority will be the Pioneer and similar groups first, then there will only be a few spaces left for "regular" ST holders to fill.

Then the debate begins, can they stick with the first-come-first-served (and as someone who renewed bang on 10am on renewal day I'm sure I'm near the top), but allow non-PL postcode supporters travel, or limit it to PL ST holders?

Should they limit it by choice of travel? Ask supporters who will drive their own cars or only those who can walk?

I don't envy the position they'll be in and I can only hope that as supporters of the club we can all be reasonable and accept their approach to the allocations.

Not being funny but those without a season ticket can use iFollow too if it was all about supporting the club financially but they choose not to so in no way would it be fair to give them my seat at the ground.

Not been mentioned yet but with either 2000 or 4000 Argyle fans in Home Park this will surely give the team on the pitch a boost.

Any edge that can continue to support our impressive home record is great in my book.

Yes its tough on teams in their 3 who will continue to play in empty grounds but that’s the role of the dice in regards to the regulations and we should embrace them.

Who ever gets in though, needs to remember they represent at least 6 others from the Green Army and so they need to “sing their hearts out for the lads” ....

COYG

Some of the costings for ST prices will include the price per seat overheads to cover stewarding etc. The extra measures for COVID might include only opening the Lyndhurst for example, so hopefully the extra costs might be minimal.