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Brief Synopsis!!! (Bradford)

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Everyone was saying we were down by Xmas last year and then look what happened!

Sort the defence out in January with a couple of signings and watch us climb the table...
 
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Everyone was saying we were down by Xmas last year and then look what happened!

Sort the defence out in January with a couple of signings and watch us climb the table...
That’s whole new back four and a keeper then!? Dillusional. The team this year is not good enough to bounce back like we did last year.
 
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Sharpy1331":1tv6mq6h said:
jay_smithy":1tv6mq6h said:
Everyone was saying we were down by Xmas last year and then look what happened!

Sort the defence out in January with a couple of signings and watch us climb the table...
That’s whole new back four and a keeper then!? Dillusional. The team this year is not good enough to bounce back like we did last year.

Yep, this time last season, the team were starting to turn it round and looking far more positive. This season we are getting worse and cant seem to beat anyone. Its four weeks now since the last Argyle win. That's not good enough.

Edit: Just checked back ON GOS and yep, November 17 2017 beat Northampton 2-0 at home then Dec 9 beat Gillingham 2-1 at home. Followed up with 1-1 draw at Rotherham and then those positive Christmas results. So we are doing worse at the same stage this season.
 

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Don't be fooled by the scoreline, it was the least entertaining 3 3 I've ever seen.

Two poor teams with poor defences playing out a poor game.

Worrying.

Macey - 3
Riley - 5
Edwards - 4
Canavan - 4
Smith Brown - 5
Fox - 5
Songo'o - 3
Sarcevic - 5
Carey - 6
Ladapo - 8
Grant - 6

Taylor - 5
Lameiras - 5
 

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An entertaining game played in awful conditions of a strong swirling wind and heavy rain.

A 3-3 draw against the bottom team in League One isn't a good result but it at least pushed us one point closer to the team in 20th position.

The three Bradford goals were Christmas gifts three weeks early and the result of some really poor defending and goalkeeping with Matt Macey once again making saves but pushing the ball back into the danger area for Bradford to score the first two goals.
Going forward we played well and created several chances, so you have to feel sorry for the attacking players when they are let down by the two centre-backs and keeper.
Bradford looked a poor side, highlighted by our 20 attempts on goal compared to their eight and our 61% of possession but it's goals that count.

Credit to the players for coming from behind three times and not giving up.

Bradford lined up with former Argyle players Kelvin Mellor and Anthony O'Connor playing as centre-backs with Mellor surprisingly on the left side of the two.

Jamie Ness missed out through injury so surprisingly Derek Adams shuffled his defence by bringing in Ryan Edwards and Yann Songo'o moved forward into midfield. A better option to cover the absence of Ness would to have left the settled defence alone, move Sarcevic back to partner Fox in midfield and Ruben Lameiras to play behind Freddie Ladapo.

Whatever the reasons the move unsettled the defence and led to Bradford's first goal.
With seemingly no danger Edwards miskicked and allowed Miller to advance on goal, Macey saved his shot but as he has done throughout the season he parried the ball back into the danger area for Payne to tap in. 1-0 to Bradford, a Macey or Edwards own goal? You decide.

We took the game to Bradford and the forward players were playing well, Joel Grant and Graham Carey were causing problems in the wide areas but there was panic from the defenders and anxious growns from the fans whenever Bradford crossed the halfway line.

We got back into the game when a short corner was returned to Carey who delivered a fantastic cross for Ladapo to head in from close range. 1-1.
We know that Ladapo always scores two goals at home, more about that later.

We couldn't keep the lead and more comedy goalkeeping from Macey allowed Bradford to go 2-1 up. Guess what he did? Yep, parried a shot back into the danger area for Payne to slot home. Rinse and repeat.

We still played well going forward, Carey had a free-kick that hit the post, Fox and Grant both had shots saved, we really deserved to be at least level.

Would Adams replace Canavan, Macey or Edwards at half-time? No, as you were for the second half.

We put pressure on the Bradford defence and finally had some luck when Ladapo played in Grant, a Bradford player looked to have cleared the danger but the ball hit the advancing Grant and rolled over the line. 2-2.

All we had to do now was sit tight and settle down.

Nope, just three minutes later a long hopeful ball deceived our centre-backs and Miller raced away and easily slotted past Macey.

We didn't give up and Fox had a header superbly tipped over the bar.

Edwards was finally put out of his misery and was replaced by Taylor, Songo'o moved back into defence and Sarcevic partnered Fox in midfield but it was a strange narrow 4-2-2-2 formation because Carey and Grant were playing directly behind Ladapo and Taylor and we had no width, although at least we had two strikers playing close together.

Taylor copied Fox and saw his header tipped over the bar.

We equalised for a third time and once again it came from a Carey assist, his corner found Ladapo who slotted home from close range. 3-3 and another brace for Freddie.
Would Bradford now score a fourth goal?

Lameiras replaced Grant but we lost momentum and it was Bradford who finished the game stronger, Macey made a good save low down at the expense of a corner and in the dying minutes of this crazy game we had a corner that eluded everyone when all it needed was a touch for a last gasp winner.

How bad was that defending and goalkeeping?

It was shambolic, the two full backs can be excused and they both played ok, Riley carried an injury for most of the second half.

Why the urgency to bring Edwards back into the team? Songo'o had formed a good partnership with Canavan, the move unsettled the defence and Edwards was clearly not ready to return.
It cost us the game and a vital 3 points.
Canavan did improve when Songo'o moved back to partner him, although there were still mistakes and anxious moments.

Fox had another good game, knitting things together, Sarcevic blows hot and cold when he can be bothered and Carey had two assists and had one of his better games.
Grant was playing well but was subbed, after that we lost momentum and never recovered. Songo'o had a poor start to the game and looked a fish out of water in midfield, he at least improved later in the game.

Ladapo scored two goals and claimed an assist, he played well but you just wish he would offer more in general play, Taylor showed how to do that when he arrived up front.

What to do about Macey? Is there a financial penalty we have to pay to Arsenal if he doesn't play? Is Letheren so poor as a back-up that he can't replace a keeper who has conceded the most goals in League One?
Adams needs to find an answer to the keeper situation, either now or in January, because this can't carry on.

Man of the match - Ladapo.

Macey 3, Riley 6, Edwards 3, Canavan 4, Smith-Brown 6, Fox 7, Songo'o 5, Sarcevic 5, Carey 7, J Grant 7, Ladapo 8. Subs - Taylor 7, Lameiras 6.
 
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These “watch us climb the table” and “watch us turn the corner”quotes are hilarious

We all know that January will be like every other window Argyle are involved in

Patching together a bunch of misfits from a car boot sale that no bugger wants
 

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I've got to admit I didn't find it entertaining at all, I found it depressing, two desperate poor teams.
 

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Two very poor teams who no doubt on today's showing will both be in division 2 next season.Argyle are not going to win many matches with defending like today.....
 
Feb 23, 2008
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Sharpy1331":1ordapr7 said:
jay_smithy":1ordapr7 said:
Everyone was saying we were down by Xmas last year and then look what happened!

Sort the defence out in January with a couple of signings and watch us climb the table...
That’s whole new back four and a keeper then!? Dillusional. The team this year is not good enough to bounce back like we did last year.

We signed Vyner last year and got Matthews back and players returned from injuries/suspensions and we climbed the table. Sort the defence out in January, bring in a pacy centre back and a RB (try and get threlkeld back,) play sawyer at LB once fully fit and we climb up the table.

Interesting that we have scored more goals than the teams in 10th, 11th and 12th and nearly the same as 8th...

Time will tell
 

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People saying that it's okay because we'll strengthen in January seem to be conveniently forgetting the absolute joke of a transfer window we had in the summer, there's nothing to suggest it won't happen again.

I think the future is looking bleak, and I'm much more worried than I was at this stage last season.
 

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2 poor defences. Some entertaining attacking play fromGrant, Carey and Ladapo. Scoring 3 at home should be enough, but sadly not at the moment.
 
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Cobi Budge":2ofqf1pe said:
Don't be fooled by the scoreline, it was the least entertaining 3 3 I've ever seen.

Two poor teams with poor defences playing out a poor game.

Worrying.

Macey - 3
Riley - 5
Edwards - 4
Canavan - 4
Smith Brown - 5
Fox - 5
Songo'o - 3
Sarcevic - 5
Carey - 6
Ladapo - 8
Grant - 6

Taylor - 5
Lameiras - 5


How many 3.3 draw have you seen then? If you can't be slightly entertained by 6 goals and 20 efforts I don't know why you bother.
 

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Balham_Green":1u1flib9 said:
Cobi Budge":1u1flib9 said:
Don't be fooled by the scoreline, it was the least entertaining 3 3 I've ever seen.

Two poor teams with poor defences playing out a poor game.

Worrying.

Macey - 3
Riley - 5
Edwards - 4
Canavan - 4
Smith Brown - 5
Fox - 5
Songo'o - 3
Sarcevic - 5
Carey - 6
Ladapo - 8
Grant - 6

Taylor - 5
Lameiras - 5


How many 3.3 draw have you seen then? If you can't be slightly entertained by 6 goals and 20 efforts I don't know why you bother.

There's nothing entertaining about seeing the club you support concede 3 goals to the worst side in the division.

It was a scrappy game with no quality on show.

Against any mid table side we'd have lost by 3 or 4 today, perhaps even more.