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Club Statement on abuse of staff
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DJG - We live in a different age, if you want to call Derek Adams a **** (insert for the word of your choice) you are rude/yob/expressing your opinion. If you call Derek Adams a Scottish **** you can be deemed by some as being racist.
The sentiment of the statement is correct, the timing of it is however not very well thought out.
The sentiment of the statement is correct, the timing of it is however not very well thought out.
being abusive is wrong and unjustifiable.booing off the players and management after dismal performances happens at every club on the planet.
i would say that using the eff word to galvanise your criticism of derek is the racism really.djg145":2w3idqoa said:
LC what are you on about! This happened in a football stadium in public with a few disgruntled fans. I have supported Argyle for years and there are always insults thrown some quite humorous. Adams and the players need to man up, stop embarrassing the loyal supporters and direct all their efforts at getting us out of this mess rather than annoy fans with petty statements.
There's 0% evidence of any coin throwing or racism. They are convenient vague rumours , deliberately not being rebuffed by the club.
Since when can you not swear at a game of football ? Is a crowd shouting "you f-ing idiot" when a player misses an open goal, "targeted abuse" now ? Is booing now harrassment ?
Not that you are forced to sit down, is the next level of control that swearing is not allowed ?
Pilgrim = Puritan indeed.
Since when can you not swear at a game of football ? Is a crowd shouting "you f-ing idiot" when a player misses an open goal, "targeted abuse" now ? Is booing now harrassment ?
Not that you are forced to sit down, is the next level of control that swearing is not allowed ?
Pilgrim = Puritan indeed.
This situation has gone beyond pathetic now. So sad to see how this has evolved.
I wonder what the club has said to Derek. It should be about understanding why fans are upset, think about open and honest communication on how a game went, be open about the fact we are in a relegation struggle, understand that families are spending £100’s a game to watch the football, be open and explain that there are areas of the game we can improve on and we are working on that and acknowledge we are in a position that no one expected.
My irritation with Derek always has been and always will be his arrogant, stubborn and better than you attitude to football management. I don’t think he is a bad person or manager, I do think he cares about the club and players and I do think he has achieved a lot. Sadly the former attributes outweigh the latter attributes for me.
I wonder what the club has said to Derek. It should be about understanding why fans are upset, think about open and honest communication on how a game went, be open about the fact we are in a relegation struggle, understand that families are spending £100’s a game to watch the football, be open and explain that there are areas of the game we can improve on and we are working on that and acknowledge we are in a position that no one expected.
My irritation with Derek always has been and always will be his arrogant, stubborn and better than you attitude to football management. I don’t think he is a bad person or manager, I do think he cares about the club and players and I do think he has achieved a lot. Sadly the former attributes outweigh the latter attributes for me.
Phil Sloggett":1qda1jn8 said:
Exactly this. Whatever your private thoughts are, never, ever, go public in writing and criticise your customers. The business world is littered with examples of this happening and it going horribly wrong. Because at the end of the day, PAFC is a business and the fans are its customer base.
Any decent PR/marketing professional knows this. You simply don't do it.
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Tony_Flags":2sfofh6d said:
Adams is all me me me. What he’s achieved, what he deserves etc. That obviously gets thrusted into the board and they buy into it because they aren’t capable or qualified to question it.
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Double him up as a centre back can’t do any worse than we have already.
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Are we still in administration or something?Steve Evans":2ryhg2bc said:
Contrary to popular believe we can and do operate in the black. We aren’t on shoestrings for everything even thou some would believe with the current setup.
If we can’t afford £22-25k a year for a role in PR then what Hope do we have.
I can forgive the 'yobs' comment as possibly that was said in the heat of the moment at the end of a match.
But the 'cowards' wording, and then this Club Statement - someone presumably has reviewed these and thought "Yes, those are reasonable things to publish on the Club's website, in the PAFC's name". And so they're out there for all to see, formally endorsed by the club.
The result? A further wedge is driven between the Club and its supporters, people who pay handsomely to watch and support their team.
These actions will have exactly the opposite effect intended.
But the 'cowards' wording, and then this Club Statement - someone presumably has reviewed these and thought "Yes, those are reasonable things to publish on the Club's website, in the PAFC's name". And so they're out there for all to see, formally endorsed by the club.
The result? A further wedge is driven between the Club and its supporters, people who pay handsomely to watch and support their team.
These actions will have exactly the opposite effect intended.
