Manchester Green":2sfqka4g said:Think we're all aware that the Ice Rink is a necessity, Lundan Cabbie. What I don't get is why does it have to be built in such a way that limits the size of the grandstand so much? And why should it take priority? Surely there is a way of cramming in ice rink, hotel, Nandos, and still having room for a decent-sized stand?
If, when the land deal went ahead, the caveat was added "other developments will take priority over the design of the stand" I doubt the fans would have been so supportive. I think we all assumed we would get what we want, whilst Brent also got what he wants. Both parties ending up winners, all of us being aware that JB was no philanthropist but at the same time thinking it was a mutually beneficial relationship. This isn't how it has turned out, which makes some of the sycophancy towards JB on here so confusing. With these designs he has broken his implied word - both parties aren't getting what they wanted from the deal, as we aren't getting an adequate grandstand at the moment.
Lundan Cabbie":ogcvzcjb said:Manchester Green":ogcvzcjb said:Think we're all aware that the Ice Rink is a necessity, Lundan Cabbie. What I don't get is why does it have to be built in such a way that limits the size of the grandstand so much? And why should it take priority? Surely there is a way of cramming in ice rink, hotel, Nandos, and still having room for a decent-sized stand?
If, when the land deal went ahead, the caveat was added "other developments will take priority over the design of the stand" I doubt the fans would have been so supportive. I think we all assumed we would get what we want, whilst Brent also got what he wants. Both parties ending up winners, all of us being aware that JB was no philanthropist but at the same time thinking it was a mutually beneficial relationship. This isn't how it has turned out, which makes some of the sycophancy towards JB on here so confusing. With these designs he has broken his implied word - both parties aren't getting what they wanted from the deal, as we aren't getting an adequate grandstand at the moment.
Adequate for what?
It's been explained to him more than once now. Just trolling without a point to make.Manchester Green":251xwp30 said:Lundan Cabbie":251xwp30 said:Manchester Green":251xwp30 said:Think we're all aware that the Ice Rink is a necessity, Lundan Cabbie. What I don't get is why does it have to be built in such a way that limits the size of the grandstand so much? And why should it take priority? Surely there is a way of cramming in ice rink, hotel, Nandos, and still having room for a decent-sized stand?
If, when the land deal went ahead, the caveat was added "other developments will take priority over the design of the stand" I doubt the fans would have been so supportive. I think we all assumed we would get what we want, whilst Brent also got what he wants. Both parties ending up winners, all of us being aware that JB was no philanthropist but at the same time thinking it was a mutually beneficial relationship. This isn't how it has turned out, which makes some of the sycophancy towards JB on here so confusing. With these designs he has broken his implied word - both parties aren't getting what they wanted from the deal, as we aren't getting an adequate grandstand at the moment.
Adequate for what?
Adequate for when we return to the Championship. I'm not deluded, it might take years, but it will happen, as hopping between div2 and div3 is our historic level. The new capacity would've been insufficient for our 2004-2005 season in the championship, and as another poster pointed out would have cost us several hundred thousand in lost revenue that season. Hell, even when this club was last competing at the top of the third division in 03-04 it would have been insufficient for several matches. I don't ascribe to this "sleeping giant" bullpoo, but clearly this is a club capable of getting into the 20k figures with a bit of prolonged success. It has before and can again. Surely you can see that?
Adequate for hosting the tour de bloody France :think:Lundan Cabbie":3fmzicif said:Manchester Green":3fmzicif said:Think we're all aware that the Ice Rink is a necessity, Lundan Cabbie. What I don't get is why does it have to be built in such a way that limits the size of the grandstand so much? And why should it take priority? Surely there is a way of cramming in ice rink, hotel, Nandos, and still having room for a decent-sized stand?
If, when the land deal went ahead, the caveat was added "other developments will take priority over the design of the stand" I doubt the fans would have been so supportive. I think we all assumed we would get what we want, whilst Brent also got what he wants. Both parties ending up winners, all of us being aware that JB was no philanthropist but at the same time thinking it was a mutually beneficial relationship. This isn't how it has turned out, which makes some of the sycophancy towards JB on here so confusing. With these designs he has broken his implied word - both parties aren't getting what they wanted from the deal, as we aren't getting an adequate grandstand at the moment.
Adequate for what?
up_the_line":bo60vw04 said:Can I just get some clarity on one thing I keep reading and that I'm struggling to comprehend;
'The stand cannot be built higher than the life centre'
Is this true?
If so W T F?
WHY? Will the Life Centre spontaneously combust if the stand exceeds its height? Will all the water drain out of Tom Daley's paddling pool?
Can someone seriously tell me that quite apart from the Ice-rink (God how I've always wanted to go to an Ice Rink, can't think why I haven't done so yet in the 28 years I've been alive) the colossal two-fingers up at architecture that the Life Centre is is also a barrier to the development of the Grandstand!?
What authority is it that is setting this supposed ceiling on the height of the new stand? Did everyone know this when the Life Centre was in it's own planning stage?
How can a City blessed with a public canvas as big as Central Park make such an absolute pig's ear of developing it?!
AAAAAAAARRRRRGGGGGHHHHHH
with-menace":ti5wo9pv said:It's been explained to him more than once now. Just trolling without a point to make.Manchester Green":ti5wo9pv said:Lundan Cabbie":ti5wo9pv said:Adequate for what?
Adequate for when we return to the Championship. I'm not deluded, it might take years, but it will happen, as hopping between div2 and div3 is our historic level. The new capacity would've been insufficient for our 2004-2005 season in the championship, and as another poster pointed out would have cost us several hundred thousand in lost revenue that season. Hell, even when this club was last competing at the top of the third division in 03-04 it would have been insufficient for several matches. I don't ascribe to this "sleeping giant" bullpoo, but clearly this is a club capable of getting into the 20k figures with a bit of prolonged success. It has before and can again. Surely you can see that?
Who the hell are you ?graiser":2rnctgzy said:Bermudian Green":2rnctgzy said:What I've established after ploughing through 61 pages of posts is that with_menace is a really angry bloke.
:greensmile:
More inadequate than angry I think
Great, join the list of obsessive stalkers who while apparently not liking my views have a bizarre need to read every single one. Pm for a signed photo. Sure it'll look great on your mantle piece next to your Fred west picky or whatever else it is you obsess overBermudian Green":k0avmkxi said:What I've established after ploughing through 61 pages of posts is that with_menace is a really angry bloke.
:greensmile:
with-menace":3rg5h6gt said:Who the hell are you ?graiser":3rg5h6gt said:Bermudian Green":3rg5h6gt said:What I've established after ploughing through 61 pages of posts is that with_menace is a really angry bloke.
:greensmile:
More inadequate than angry I think
Yes I'm angry, Infact I'm ****ing furious that we're expected to swallow this turd and say yum yum thank you mr Brent sir but sick to my stomach that we have so many sycophantic yes men who dare call themselves argyle fans while only too willing to bend over and except this unacceptable wooden spoon of a stand. I can imagine your too busy swapping scarves and wishing Exeter all the best to give a toss though. Yes you do all your yip on the Internet don't you. Now back to your dungeons and dragons :funny: