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That's brilliant, well done the club for speaking out in public!
 

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http://www.pafc.co.uk/news/article/2016 ... 98506.aspx


PLYMOUTH Argyle have been canvassed, along with all the other 71 EFL clubs, for their opinion on proposals set out in the EFL’s Whole Game Solution...
...a discussion document regarding the re-organisation of the current league system and FA Cup.

The club has written to the EFL expressing its opposition to the main proposals namely:-
• expansion of the EFL to four divisions;
• reformation of the FA Cup;
• regionalisation of the EFL; and
• a winter fixtures break.

Clubs began the process of discussing a possible overhaul of the English game at this summer’s annual conference, when they were asked to consider a new domestic league system of five divisions of 20 teams from the 2019-20 season, with the EFL becoming a four-division competition below the Premier League.

That would include a new League Three, bringing the number of clubs competing across the professional game to 100, reducing league schedule to 38 games, instead of the current 46.

The Argyle Board of Directors has responded to the EFL’s request for feedback by making it clear the club can see no advantage in extending the league structure and is completely opposed to the introduction of Premier League B teams into the EFL structure. Neither does it want to see the National League weakened by recruiting teams from their competition to expand the EFL.

It also argues that compensating clubs for the loss of revenue from the reduced number of fixtures will mean relying on an increased subsidy from the Premier League at a time when it believes the EFL should not be actively seeking to increase financial dependency on the Premier League.

The club also recognizes the long and proud tradition of the FA Cup. It sees further changes to its structure as detrimental to the game and is extremely disappointed that a decision has been taken to abandon replays for the quarter-finals from 2017 with apparently little or no consultation.

The Pilgrims have also urged the EFL to look again at arrangements concerning midweek fixtures to mitigate the travelling for away clubs and supporters. However, despite being affected more than most by long-distance travel, the club does not want to see a return to a polarisation of the EFL between north and south.

Argyle have also questioned the efficacy of a winter break, citing concerns about coinciding the break with the worst of the English weather and of the effects on cash flow.

Talks about the Whole Game Solution will continue until early next year, when a formal proposal will be collated for further discussion prior to a vote at the 2016-17 EFL summer conference.

Supporters wishing to raise any points on the Whole Game Solution with the Argyle board will be able to do so at the Fans Forum on Saturday, September 24, which is being held in the Green Taverners’ Suite, starting at 10.30am.
 

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Lovely stuff. Is it possible that every single club in the 'EFL' objects to this? Or at least in League One and Two.

Hopefully that will mean Shaun Harvey's position becomes untenable.
 
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Not much room for negotiation based on this statement, just need another 7 clubs to take Argyle's position and the proposal won't proceed.
 

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Not much room for negotiation based on this statement, just need another 7 clubs to take Argyle's position and the proposal won't proceed.
Accrington, Oxford, Pompey, Wimbledon and Argyle - and I am sure their are other public pronouncements that I have missed?
 

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Surely NO-ONE will support it though...? It's just so wishy-washy, ill-thought out and unnecessary that I can't see any club reacting positively.
 

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Surely NO-ONE will support it though...? It's just so wishy-washy, ill-thought out and unnecessary that I can't see any club reacting positively.
Your faith in the people who run football is endearing ;)

Seriously, someone who ought to know better proposed it :furious: so better safe than sorry; we need to keep the pressure up
 

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Surely NO-ONE will support it though...? It's just so wishy-washy, ill-thought out and unnecessary that I can't see any club reacting positively.
Your faith in the people who run football is endearing ;)

Seriously, someone who ought to know better proposed it :furious: so better safe than sorry; we need to keep the pressure up

Let's keep the pressure up, Shaun Harvey needs booting out. He obviously doesn't 'get' what our clubs are about.
 

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There is a questionable history to Shaun Harvey - and whether he is suitable to be Chief Executive of a football club - let alone the Football League.

For information and background, read David Conn's article from 2013:

https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... hire-radio

(There is also an article on Harvey at Stand, the football fanzine - http://www.standamf.com/2014/06/01/who-is-shaun-harvey/ )

Shaun Harvey, chief executive of the Football League, is at the centre of a damning ruling by the regulator Ofcom over "unjust and unfair" broadcasts amounting to "harassment" made by Leeds United's in-house radio station, Yorkshire Radio, while he was the club's chief executive.
It is the latest in a series of adverse rulings about the club's misconduct when Harvey was their chief executive and Ken Bates chairman, from 2005 until Bates sold the club last year.
Harvey resigned from the club....... in July, and in October was selected by the Football League to be its chief executive, to the astonishment of many Leeds supporters.

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A court judgment ... found that Leeds under Bates and Harvey had committed the civil offence of harassment against ( Mr and Mrs )Levi, by the radio broadcasts and derogatory statements published about him in the official matchday programme.
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Giving evidence in court to defend the treatment of the couple, Harvey said he had not considered Mrs Levi's feelings when he instigated the broadcasts, because the "business of running a football club" did not allow him room to do so.

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While Harvey was the Leeds chief executive, he and Bates had a poor relationship with the club's supporters trust, which was constituted according to recognised Supporters Direct principles and grew to have 9,000 members. Yorkshire Radio was found by Ofcom earlier this year to have made "unfair" broadcasts about the trust's chairman, Gary Cooper.

...Harvey was the Leeds chief executive under Bates for seven years, having originally been appointed by the previous owners, including Melvyn Levi. For six of those years – before and after Leeds under Bates and Harvey collapsed into administration in 2007 owing around £35m, including £7m unpaid taxes – the club was owned via an offshore company in the Cayman Islands, a tax haven. Harvey gave evidence to a parliamentary select committee inquiry in 2011 that he did not know who the club's owners were.
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Previously Harvey was chief executive at Bradford City for 10 years, which included the club's promotion to the Premier League in 1999. In 2002 after Bradford's relegation the club collapsed into administration, only narrowly avoiding liquidation, after most of its assets, including parachute payments, the stadium and even players, had effectively been mortgaged.

... Three months later (from 1st July 2013), the Football League, chaired by Greg Clarke, unveiled Harvey as its chief executive, a new position designed to address issues including club ownership, governance and compliance with league rules. The League is thought to have decided Harvey's long experience at clubs, including promotion, relegation and more than one administration, made him suitably experienced to lead the league itself in its 125th year. :doh:

... Gary Cooper (of Leeds Supporters Trust) said. "I find it astonishing that the Football League decided Shaun Harvey is the best person they could find for a position of such authority."

Asked for his reaction, Harvey did not apologise to Melvyn and Carole Levi or express any contrition. He said the ruling concerned events that occurred in 2010 ....